00:08:13 <selsta> luigi1111w: 6672 in now reviewed
00:31:07 <selsta> so from my side, once you have time you can merge this and then tag v0.16.0.1
00:31:08 <selsta> thanks
06:09:34 <fluffypony> I agree with tevador
06:09:35 <fluffypony> cut them off at the knees and they won't revert to a lazy (and dumb) solution
09:58:54 <Inge-> Does really anyone except zcashers believe embedding FATF data into the tx is a great idea?
12:15:27 <Rik> Hi! What IDE do you use when developing and contributing in monero project?
12:16:03 <bertptrs> I've tried several but none of them stand up to the complexity of wallet2 and core_rpc_server
12:18:46 <hyc> Rik: I use vim
12:20:09 <fluffypony> bbedit
12:20:33 <Rik> Which C ++ standard is used in Monero?)
12:20:41 <fluffypony> all of them
12:20:47 <fluffypony> moneromooo doesn't like C++11
12:20:49 <fluffypony> :-P
12:20:59 <Rik> '=D
12:21:33 <fluffypony> hyc wishes we could rewrite it in C
12:21:34 <fluffypony> and vtnerd keeps doing C++11 stuff that confuses moneromooo
12:21:53 <fluffypony> I think as long as the code is legible and doesn't use anything too weird then it's mostly fine
12:22:08 <fluffypony> https://github.com/monero-project/monero/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md
12:22:27 <fluffypony> there's not much beyond the general guidelines there
12:22:35 <moneromooo> I think that's mostly right. We do use C++11. Esoteric template stuff is discouraged.
12:22:45 <Rik> Interesting atmosphere in development =))
12:23:08 <fluffypony> Rik: we have a LOT of ICs working on Monero, so it's hard to enforce a style guide that's too strict
12:23:15 <moneromooo> I think it's just vtnerd's style really. Like... instead of functions, pass structures with operator() on them. That makes it hard to follow.
12:23:21 <Rik> Got it, guys!
12:23:30 <fluffypony> moneromooo: I know, I was just teasing :)
12:23:39 <moneromooo> A a function call. What's the name ? operator(). Nice. What does it do now...
12:23:57 <rbrunner> I use NetBeans as IDE, but have trying Visual Studio Code on my todo-list (from the "trojans are us" company)
12:24:02 <moneromooo> Now I'm sure some of the stuff I do confuses others too :D
12:24:20 <fluffypony> lol
12:25:18 <moneromooo> Coincidentally, I've been fighting stupid template shit since yesterday. It's great when it works but damn, do templates make it a pain to get to that point...
12:29:33 <Rik> What IRC client do you use to chat here?) I tried through the browser (freenode.net), but the history is not saved.
12:29:47 <moneromooo> What's an IC ? I pattern match to integrated circuit...
12:30:09 <moneromooo> Or somehting about more NSAey...
12:31:36 <rbrunner> HexChat, and reading up here in the history (on good days, when the IRC bridge is up): https://mattermost.getmonero.org/monero/channels/monero-dev
12:33:12 <bertptrs> I think Individual Contributor
12:34:57 <hyc> I think the templates for http/p2p/rpc sessions in epee are just ridiculous
12:35:13 <hyc> actually, most of the uses of templates in this codebase are ridiculous
12:35:35 <hyc> and utterly undebuggable
12:35:46 <fluffypony> bertptrs: yes
12:35:59 <fluffypony> Rik: IRCCloud will save your history
12:36:02 <fluffypony> else you have to setup ZNC
12:36:18 <fluffypony> or use one of the bridges like MatterMost / Matrix / Slack
17:04:00 <kinghat[m]> the lounge is self hosted irccloud, basically
17:23:48 <UkoeHB_> logs are always available here: https://monerologs.net/monero-dev/20200623
17:41:51 <UkoeHB_> Rik: the readme says GCC 4.7.3 is the compiler required to build, and 4.7.3 only supports C++11 (most of it anyway fwict)
18:59:14 <luigi1111w> tag is up
18:59:52 <selsta> nice tyty
19:41:44 <fort3hlulz> Has this type of network approach been considered before for Monero: https://github.com/tari-project/tari/pull/1986
19:42:00 <fort3hlulz> Seems like a good way to drastically reduce unnecessary broadcast traffic
19:42:19 <fort3hlulz> But I'm sure there are drawbacks I'm not thinking of right now
20:08:56 <gingeropolous> and im gonna rewrite it in bash
20:09:17 <gingeropolous> bashonero
20:25:18 <selsta> anyone started reproducible builds for v0.16.0.1 yet?
20:26:28 <fort3hlulz> Is it ready? I can kick mine off if so
20:26:58 <selsta> yes
20:29:01 <fort3hlulz> kicking off mine now
20:45:27 <iDunk> https://paste.debian.net/hidden/fe25bb54/
20:48:27 <selsta> iDunk: linux hashes match
20:53:06 <fort3hlulz> Same, Linux hashes match
20:53:09 <fort3hlulz> Still compiling the rest
21:02:31 <fort3hlulz> Android hashes match
21:04:30 <fort3hlulz> Love seeing all 32 cores get maxed out :D
21:09:40 <fort3hlulz> Also multitail is amazing, and I can't believe I only recently found it
21:14:34 <fort3hlulz> Windows hashes match.
21:19:46 <fort3hlulz> All hashes match: https://paste.debian.net/1153553/
21:22:36 <fort3hlulz> Should there be a Reddit post asking for other's to do the same?
21:22:47 <fort3hlulz> I can copy paste from an old one if needed, I think dEBRUYNE usually does those
21:24:31 <fort3hlulz> I'll just clone this post if y'all are cool with it to start getting more testers: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/go1ous/cli_v01600_nitrogen_nebula_has_been_tagged_you/
21:24:46 <selsta> fort3hlulz: you can make one if you want :) think dEBRUYNE was not on IRC so didn’t see it yet
21:24:55 <fort3hlulz> Ok I'll go ahead and post!
21:25:44 <fort3hlulz> Assuming I should change this text:
21:25:58 <fort3hlulz> https://paste.debian.net/1153557/
21:26:09 <fort3hlulz> What are the quick highlights of 16.0.0.1?
21:26:18 <fort3hlulz> *0.16.0.1
21:26:28 <selsta> bug fixes
21:26:34 <selsta> including the ledger one
21:26:45 <fort3hlulz> Do you have a link to the PR/issue for that?
21:26:49 <fort3hlulz> I can link it directly in the post.
21:28:08 <fort3hlulz> https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/6594?
21:28:18 <selsta> yep
21:28:20 <fort3hlulz> sweet
21:28:47 <fort3hlulz> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/heng91/cli_v01601_nitrogen_nebula_has_been_tagged_you/
21:29:40 <selsta> thanks
21:49:22 <hyc> meh. forgot to set -j8 on my build
22:03:45 <dEBRUYNE> Yeah wasn't here, thanks for posting fort3hlulz
22:06:25 <gingeropolous> hrm, i don't think i used docker last time.... and im just blindly copypasta the reddit post
22:08:10 <gingeropolous> wait, that doesn't make sense. ignore me. lah dee dah
22:08:55 <scoobybejesus> All my hashes match
22:23:25 <fort3hlulz> not sure why my commands dont build for FreeBSD
22:23:33 <fort3hlulz> Could someone check that and make sure I'm not  missing something?
22:23:58 <selsta> what is the error?
22:24:25 <iDunk> Your gitian-build.py may be old.
22:24:39 <selsta> you said you use ubuntu 20.04 on reddit which is untested
22:24:45 <selsta> maybe that’s why?
22:24:53 <hyc> should make no difference
22:25:04 <hyc> everything in the docker is 18.04
22:26:16 <fort3hlulz> I freshly downloaded the gitian-build.py: curl -O https://raw.githubusercontent.com/monero-project/monero/master/contrib/gitian/gitian-build.py iDunk
22:26:41 <fort3hlulz> Yeah I don't think my host OS would matter for one build if the builds work at all in Docker
22:27:11 <iDunk> Copy it from builder/inputs/monero/contrib/gitian/gitian-build.py
22:27:17 <selsta> didn’t change really
22:27:29 <selsta> I also use the master one and freebsd builds
22:28:02 <fort3hlulz> I'll dig into it more later
22:28:06 <fort3hlulz> And rerun the build
22:28:28 <iDunk> Do you have -o switch in your command ?
22:28:35 <scoobybejesus> maybe it's in your log and you just looked past it :P
22:34:32 <xmrpow> Does anybody have some mathematical resources that you can recommend for the calculation of pps reserve?
23:21:25 <hyc> my linux hashes match, yay