11:25:31 <woodser> daemon status says "update needed" on 0.16.0.0 cli.  it shouldn't because that's the latest, no?
11:29:31 <selsta> woodser: yea will be fixed with next release
12:32:09 <woodser> I'm having a hard time getting and keeping peer connections to my daemon on stagenet.
12:32:41 <woodser> It'll get a connection, then it'll drop.  I have port forwarding enabled for 38080.
17:54:59 <selsta> luigi1111w: also supercop repo PR 3 please if you are ok with it
18:03:15 <sarang> and that Windows CI PR
18:03:54 <sarang> nvm... just saw that 6582 was merged!
18:23:02 <sarang> Looks like CI is progressing smoothly
18:25:46 <luigi1111w> vtnerd_ around?
18:49:06 <selsta> luigi1111w: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/8b16462b/
18:50:00 <selsta> ah wrong link
18:50:21 <selsta> was the gui one
18:50:25 <selsta> luigi1111w: cli https://paste.debian.net/hidden/80e823ac/
18:50:32 <luigi1111w> you got mac built for gui?
18:50:40 <selsta> yep
18:50:47 <luigi1111w> also not sure that's as good as my existing description
18:50:58 <selsta> yes very good is also good
18:52:49 <luigi1111w> thanks
18:53:44 <wizardsmoke> 🍄
19:31:45 <vtnerd_> yes
19:31:53 <vtnerd_> an hour late, but around
19:32:03 <vtnerd_> luigi1111w ^
19:32:25 <luigi1111w> just painting some bikesheds
19:33:04 <vtnerd_> oh yeah the boost thing, Ill try to come up with something that is the least gross
19:33:12 <luigi1111w> no supercop
19:33:49 <luigi1111w> why not ge25519_scalarmult and move the doublings to their own function or the host function, or ge25519_scalarmult8 ?
19:34:04 <vtnerd_> the iamamyth comment? yeah I need to respond
19:34:42 <luigi1111w> ah that one too
19:34:47 <luigi1111w> but the mooo comment above it
19:35:43 <luigi1111w> also a follow up comment on the thread about comments being wrong would be appreciated
19:39:31 <vtnerd_> ah I somehow missed that comment about renaming the function, and yeah it would be for the better
19:39:37 <vtnerd_> will get to these because this is kind of useful
19:40:07 <vtnerd_> and if your other question was about why not calling ge25519_scalarmult ... because  there is none for these libs
19:40:37 <vtnerd_> the only constant time mul function is fixed to the basepoint because the signing libraries never need constant-time arbitrary point mul
19:41:13 <vtnerd_> we could switch to the variable time functions which would be faster, but with the downside that this theoretically does change the possible viewkey scanning behavior
19:42:02 <vtnerd_> look at ge25519.h in either variant folder
19:46:41 <luigi1111w> no, not calling that function, naming it that
19:46:59 <vtnerd_> yeah ok I wasnt certain if you were suggesting changing the function too at the same itme
19:47:13 <luigi1111w> just wrt clarity surrounding the mul8
19:47:16 <vtnerd_> ge25519_scalarmult8 is a more accurate name and can be reused
19:47:21 <luigi1111w> fine by me
19:47:35 <vtnerd_> ohh I see what you meant now sorry
19:47:48 <vtnerd_> yeah if they were separate it would be even more useful
19:48:12 <vtnerd_> because then it exposes ECDH on ed25519 directly
19:48:24 <luigi1111w> cool
19:48:42 <vtnerd_> yeah Ill expose a public symbol for these
19:49:03 <vtnerd_> I don't know if aynone noticed, but this can be built and installed as a standalone static/dynamic system lib
19:50:16 <luigi1111w> I agree with leaving it constant time, though would be interested to see the perf difference if you ever care to check
19:58:10 <vtnerd_> yes, it might be worth exposing this for advanced used if there is a decent bumb
19:58:13 <vtnerd_> bump
22:37:08 <sarang> Looking for opinions on this: https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/6600
22:37:32 <sarang> Would it be worthwhile to add a "sign with both keys" option, as opposed to separate sigs with each key on the same message?
22:39:36 <sarang> The idea is that asking for a signature with a spend key does not guarantee that the signer has spend authority... you could have the spend private key but not the view private key