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azy
can you confirm that a subaddress belongs to a pub/viewkey pair?
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normo
.1
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normo
./1
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ErCiccione[m]
Meeting time?
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rbrunner
17:00 UTC checks out at least ...
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ErCiccione[m]
who is here?
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kinghat[m]
o/
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rbrunner
3 is almost a crowd :)
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kinghat[m]
maybe pps need pinged
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moneromooo
I can be if you need a fourth.
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ErCiccione[m]
selsta?
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ErCiccione[m]
i think mainpoint would be the upcoming release
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selsta
yes hi
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ErCiccione[m]
alright, let's do this thing
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ErCiccione[m]
so at the end we are going for 0.16
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rbrunner
Loose consensus?
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ErCiccione[m]
i guess nothing was decided yet about the name
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selsta
we branched already
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ErCiccione[m]
yeah i saw the PR. So now some days of cooldown?
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selsta
it would be best if we have testers
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ErCiccione[m]
rbrunner: about the name thing? no idea. It's fine for me either way. As long as we make clear to people that it's not a hard fork
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rbrunner
So anything that comes trailing now goes to both master and that branch, right?
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selsta
rbrunner: yes
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moneromooo
Either that or master only.
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selsta
branch = bug fixed only
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rbrunner
Ok
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selsta
fixes*
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ErCiccione[m]
Would be probably good to post something on social medias. Asking people to test
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ErCiccione[m]
people are translating the GUI a lot. The problem is that we have few reviewers
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selsta
There will be one more Trezor PR
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ErCiccione[m]
i will pr the translations in the next days
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selsta
and I have to ping Ledger dev
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selsta
so that they can prepare release
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selsta
ErCiccione[m]: nice
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ErCiccione[m]
When the changelod is ready can i have a copy before it's published? So i can prepare the blog post earlier
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selsta
yes
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selsta
so regarding name: should we open a meta issue?
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ErCiccione[m]
Thanks
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dEBRUYNE
Joining in now, apologies for being a bit late :P
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ErCiccione[m]
yeah i think would be good
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sgp_
Same ^
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dEBRUYNE
<selsta> it would be best if we have testers <= I intend to create a thread on Reddit with a call for testers
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selsta
I can create binaries but people would have to trust me
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ErCiccione[m]
Nice. Thanks dEBRUYNE
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selsta
or someone can also do reproduce builds
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dEBRUYNE
I was thinking of simply adding compile instructions
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dEBRUYNE
For the CLI they are quite straight forward
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selsta
yep ok
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ErCiccione[m]
is snipa going to be around for this release?
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selsta
for GUI binaries yes hopefully
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selsta
he did setup all the new dependencies
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ErCiccione[m]
yeah but afaiu he has been busy lately. Just wanted to make sure he is not missing at the last minute :P
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selsta
I would say we should merge
monero-project/monero #6515 before doing a reddit thread
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selsta
so that people have correct version number and hashes
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moneromooo
You'd do a 0.16.0.1 then ?
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dEBRUYNE
I think the tag has not been set yet?
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iDunk
Here's my gitian builds (CLI binaries) folder on Mega, if someone wants to test
mega.nz/#F!mYNlTKAK!nFd2jfflDxvAJB_AQa_xXA
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iDunk
It hasn't, AFAIK.
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selsta
moneromooo: no
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selsta
unless I’m missing something?
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moneromooo
You would have 0.16.0.0 refer to two different codebases ?
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selsta
Not sure if I understand
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selsta
I would not tag yet
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selsta
until we did a bit of testing
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iDunk
#6514 should be deleted.
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ErCiccione[m]
it's too early to tag no? we just branched
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iDunk
IIRC, we merge the branch back to master.
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iDunk
And then master gets the v0.16.0.0 version.
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selsta
iDunk: hmm we did not do this the last times
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selsta
fluffy usually created two PRs
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rbrunner
I remember likewise. No merge back the last few times, no?
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rbrunner
Such double PR's instead
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moneromooo
I don't remember a merge back.
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selsta
moneromooo: can you elaborate? We usually updated the version number in both branches but v0.16.0.0 will be tagged from release-v0.16 branch
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dEBRUYNE
My mind remembers double PRs as well :-P
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iDunk
Hmm, right. I must have misremembered.
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iDunk
Double PRs they were.
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moneromooo
I mean that if you bump version to something, then tell people to get it, then don't bump the version again if you change the tree, it's a bit sucky. Not hugely sucky though.
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moneromooo
So I'm just mentioning this but not arguing against if you want to do it.
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rbrunner
Ah, because we don't have any numbering for something like betas in place?
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moneromooo
We do -_-
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iDunk
I think the version on master would stay at 0.16.0.0, or I'm not getting it.
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moneromooo
That's why there are 4 version numner fields.
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selsta
I thought we will ask people to test the release-v0.16 branch and not tag until shortly before release
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ErCiccione[m]
that's how we usually did, no?
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iDunk
Right, so the tag would be v0.16.0.0 on the branch.
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selsta
so that we can get last minute fixes in without retagging
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moneromooo
Yes.
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moneromooo
Tags should not change commit. That is *very* sucky.
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selsta
Did not intend to do that.
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selsta
Worst case is we will do v0.16.0.1
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dEBRUYNE
My intention was too to let people test the branch
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selsta
if we find something after tagging
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moneromooo
That's the best case.
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rbrunner
I think also it would be nice if people try something under a version number of 0.16.0.0, and what they receive as final has something different, 0.16.0.1, for clarity
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rbrunner
We won't run out of version number, will we?
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ErCiccione[m]
i think at the point would just be better to have RC releases. But we discussed this before and people weren't entusiast about it
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rbrunner
So, as moneromooo maybe meant to say, the 4th digit goes up it goes out of beta
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ErCiccione[m]
i would just give people instructions to build the branch and tag after everything is ready. At least that's what we did in past
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selsta
ErCiccione[m]: no rc releases
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iDunk
I still don't get it. People would be testing v0.16.0.0-hash (after 6515 is merged).
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iDunk
Then 0.16.0.0-release would be the final one after the tag.
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ErCiccione[m]
selsta: yeah, i'm not proposing that anymore :)
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rbrunner
Sounds good also
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selsta
iDunk: yep
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ErCiccione[m]
Anything else we should talk about?
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vtnerd__
Crap missed the meeting :/
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selsta
fluffy says the DNS provider still has the DNS locked, he will call them again
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vtnerd__
No updates, working on updating the light wallet server to be outside of the main repo
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selsta
should we think of hardcoding new servers if this does not get resolved?
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rbrunner
New servers? New seed nodes?
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selsta
updates.moneropulse.org
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selsta
still has v0.15.0.1
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moneromooo
binaryFate: do you have a set of suitable domains for this ?
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selsta
oh and I think we also wanted to remove unknown seed nodes that are down for a while now
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selsta
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ErCiccione[m]
Agree
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binaryFate
arf missed meeting. Domain for the seeds? I have to check with pony. Otherwise we can get some quickly next few days
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moneromooo
That was for the update DNS records.
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moneromooo
selta was asking for a plan B in case the transfer to you never happens.
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binaryFate
It's not transfer to me but giving me access (fluffypony will conserve access too). The team has been created, but I don't know what's blocking transfer
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moneromooo
AFAIK pony asked for hoops for security, and he's not getting to jump.
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moneromooo
*now getting
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rbrunner
Sigh, jumping ponies
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binaryFate
fluffypony if you're around can you give an update ^
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selsta
he told me a few days ago that the it’s mid transfer and the provider locked the DNS
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selsta
but this has been going on for months now
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selsta
and he will call them
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binaryFate
that's becoming really urgent now, right?
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selsta
yes, gui has a new updater that requires update DNS getting updated
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binaryFate
I think the DNS transfer was agree in Jan, so yes that has been months
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binaryFate
I can't call them myself and ask for it obviously
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moneromooo
Reminds me, does the GUI have gitian builds yet ? I still have my updater patches I can push once it does.
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selsta
not yet, we need proper cmake support first
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selsta
and cmake only works on linux or windows
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ErCiccione[m]
Does it make sense to use different DNS already? We don't want to risk to arrive at tag day with the problem still not solved
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selsta
I’m just planning an alternative if this can’t get resolved
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selsta
I would prefer not to change it
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ErCiccione[m]
Yeah would be definitely better to not change it, but we have really few time here.
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ErCiccione[m]
I mena. How long do we want to wait if we want to tag in few days?
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fluffypony
binaryFate: last contact from them was Friday
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fluffypony
they said next week
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fluffypony
I can change the records in the meantime
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fluffypony
just need to know what tio
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fluffypony
*to
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selsta
not yet we did not release the new version yet
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selsta
and changing the dns to the old version for a few days does not sound worth it
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fluffypony
yeah I know - I mean I can change it if it's released before the xfer has finished
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selsta
ok
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selsta
well then we don’t have to change it
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selsta
I thought it was locked as in not changeable.
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fluffypony
oh - no, it's already on the new account and just needs to be released from the old one, but in the meantime I can make changes on the old one
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binaryFate
ok so all is well for release
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ErCiccione[m]
Nice.
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ErCiccione[m]
If we are done, i'm going to make dinner.
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selsta
Ok someone has to review 6515 and then luigi1111w has to merge it
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selsta
and afterwards we can ask for testers on Reddit
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ErCiccione[m]
sounds like a plan
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dEBRUYNE
Anything specific that testers need to look out for?
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dEBRUYNE
cc moneromooo
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moneromooo
Dandelion I guess.
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moneromooo
That's the big thing this time.
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moneromooo
Possibly also P2P traffic. Should be ~ a third less (and two thirds once most people have updated).
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moneromooo
And anything they usually do that's not the basic stuff.
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selsta
iDunk: our hashes don’t match
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vtnerd__
Yeah make sure those txes still get distributed
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iDunk
For that same commit ?
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selsta
yes
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selsta
gcc version 7.5.0 (Ubuntu 7.5.0-3ubuntu1~18.04)
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iDunk
And you also did a gitian build ?
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selsta
yep, earlier today
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selsta
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iDunk
I did mine last night. I'll update to see if anything has changed.
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iDunk
Nope, no updates in Ubuntu.
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selsta
hmm
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iDunk
My hashes match yours :)
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selsta
do they? :P
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iDunk
You used SHA1 instead of SHA256 ;)
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selsta
ahh lol
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selsta
well at least no problem with reproducible builds :D
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dEBRUYNE
Can anyone review/approve 6515 btw?
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selsta
it’s the same as 6514
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ErCiccione[m]
Should we have another meeting next sunday?
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ErCiccione[m]
Probably better to have weekly meeting until the release it's done
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dEBRUYNE
selsta: Ah, missed that that one was already approved
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needbrrrrrrr90
whats the name of the tech that has miners pick their own txes for the pool or whatever?
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» needbrrrrrrr90 is hitting a blank
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moneromooo
Might be stratum ?
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moneromooo
Or getblocktemplate.
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moneromooo
IIRC monero uses that name for something that's inferior to the bitcoin version.
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moneromooo
getwork ?
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needbrrrrrrr90
I thought we had upcoming tech that wasnt out yet
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moneromooo
jtgrassie patched a pool to do that I believe.
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moneromooo
Nobody wants to run it because it's work.
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needbrrrrrrr90
aha, I found it
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needbrrrrrrr90
thank you
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needbrrrrrrr90
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needbrrrrrrr90
for the curious
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needbrrrrrrr90
Could stratum SS be modified to involve three parties instead of two parties and a local node?
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needbrrrrrrr90
So. Right now, a significant hindrance to adoption of stratum SS appears to be the need to run a full node
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needbrrrrrrr90
Is it possible to 'remote out' the node requirement, while still allowing pool connection?
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needbrrrrrrr90
So, you can utilize any one of a number of independent full nodes to mine with stratum SS, basically splitting the attack surface even further
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needbrrrrrrr90
I imagine there's some latency concerns