2020-02-24 05:02:32.227 W [3.9.95.50:63319 INC] peer claims higher version that we think (13 for 9999999 instead of 12) - we may be forked from the network and a software upgrade may be needed

2020-02-24 05:07:00.586 W [3.9.95.50:3322 INC] peer claims higher version that we think (13 for 9999999 instead of 12) - we may be forked from the network and a software upgrade may be needed

you can ignore it or ban the IP

alright

ErCiccione[m]: I'm ready to go on it, just waiting for pigeons to find some time away from his newborn to set it up :)

fluffypony: any update on moving monero-project to an org?

fluffypony: alright, thanks. And congrats to dad pigeons!

selsta: it's done

nice :D

can you give dEBRUYNE, xiphon and me triage rights for GUI repo?

also ErCiccione[m] if he wants

selsta: what's your GitHub username?

Nice!

yeah i would appreciate triage rights

also, i'll write a post on the meta issue soon, but at this point i'm in favor of moving monero-site back to github

ok cool

fluffypony: selsta

lol I should've guessed

I think other repos should think about who wants triage rights and give you a list

agreed

the meta repo needs someone that closes outdated issues

ErCiccione[m] / xiphon / dEBRUYNE: please confirm your GitHub usernames

maybe it's enough to get the list from the issue bot

fluffypony: erciccione

ok ty

now that the monero-project is an actual project i have some suggestions that i think would be cool to implement. Like teams and public members. Should make easier to organzie things. Will write in the meta post when i have time

Does anyone have an overview of what is still required when it comes to zmq? I was looking at forum.getmonero.org/9/work-in-progress/2564/0mq-by-tewinget and the activity on it (github.com/tewinget/bitmonero/commits/zmq-dev), and it doesn't look like that was merged.

ErCiccione[m]: we disabled public members intentionally

also not aware of any teams functionality

I do see a few zmq commits in master though, there seems to be a ZmqRpcServer, but I didn't see quickly whether the wallet already uses it

Why selsta?

omartijn: vtnerd is working on it

vtnerd added zmq (not sure whether htat was on top of tewinget's code or not). AFAIK it's still not got pub/sub.

ErCiccione[m]: let’s move to #monero-community

teams functionality -> they can be useful to set up teams to work on something. Bisq uses those and i think they work quite well, with the ability to ping an entire team if you nead a review. I haven't looked it up recently, but i think it would work the same way

Ok

fluffypony: dEBRUYNE-1 on Github

ErCiccione[m] - Backlog is due to life roaring to life around me over the last week, and pushing to finish the GUI builds. Those are going into final testing over the next day or two (Pending final packaging), then I'll be back to reviewing merge requests. dEBRUYNE has been maintaining a list for me, I just haven't had a chance to check it. :)

Is censorship-resistance important to the Monero community?

yes

Has anyone reviewed 1M5.io to assist in this?

I'm looking into integrating it as a 3rd tx proxy option so it can be tested against censorship attempts.

Not having a strong background in Monero, I was told this is the place to find it.

thanks for the clarification snipa :)

objectorange is referring to repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/merge_requests/127

Yup yup. I got the OSX builds done last night for the first time after a bit longer of a fight, but that's the last one to test once I push it to selsta after I get home today, then it's packing, release, and back to merges for me. :)

i suggested him to discuss here his idea of integrating 1M5 to Monero

Snipa: Cool. Do you plan to merge dandelion++ already or we are waiting on more reviews?

I don't think I've taken a particularly close look at that one yet, I feel like I eyeballed it, but wasn't fully comfortable with my own understanding when I looked it over.

Yeah don't rush it, it's an important feature. Maybe would be better to test it on testnet a bit first

My general rule of thumb is I need to at least generally understand what's going on before I push the button

objectorange: My suggestion is to give an overview of what 1m5 is and what benefits would bring to Monero. I don't know how many here are familiar with the project (i'm definitely not)

Snipa: understanding things before you introduce them into a billion dollar cryptocurrency? that's insane!

less reviewy more pushy new features!

its ok, if it breaks we'll just turn the network off

yeah you can just take all of the coins and then give them back after people provide KYC info and proof of purchase. it's the modern way

thats what decentralized means, right?

regarding dandelion++, i was debating if we should setup another subnet thing like I tried to do for flufflyblocks

the problem is that you need transactions originating from within the subnet to try and break out into mainnet

1M5 provides routing around blocks using multiple anonymity networks. When TOR gets blocked, it uses I2P. When I2P gets blocked, it uses TOR. When both are blocked, it can use Bluetooth to hop out until someone with an unblocked TOR/I2P is found to fulfill it. WiFi-Direct, a Full-Spectrum Radio service, and LiFi (Light Fidelity) are being worked on to expand the support.

i guess we could try and enlist remote node operators to modify their daemons to only work within a subnet

that would force a lot of transactions to be routed through dandelion++

End users can stipulate under what threat they are so that some networks will not be used if under a more serious threat.

For example, Monero is made illegal in Russia and Snowden, who loves Monero (don't know if that's true), wishes to continue using Monero, but doesn't want to give the Russians a reason for kicking him out. So he sets the system to a level that ensures all Monero transactions go out over LiFi, the P2P Full Spectrum Radio sensor, Bluetooth, not TOR or I2P to ensure his IP is not associated with Monero.

objectorange: sounds like you should talk to anonimal, who's working on a layer that "drives" several networks like tor, ip2, etc.

Some mesh networking thing to go with it would seem like a good thing.

yeah, if we could integrate his work into it that would be terrific too.

The more options the better I believe.

Basically one big intelligent mesh.

The advantage of something like sekreta is that monero doesn't have to care about adding support for every overlay network under the sun. Leave that to some layer of abstraction.

TOR and I2P currently work within 1M5.

And your system sounds like it's working on a similar layer.

Bluetooth is working under discovery, but not yet for sending messages.

librecast/multicast looks awesome as well

networks can be selected

having a dedicated group on the censorship resistance front I belive is going to become very important. This isn't just a Monero thing, but a free speech thing.

...with the support of the decentralization/p2p community.

as a whole

haven't checked out librecast yet

monero uses multi-casting for transaction propagation correct?

There's no multicast on IPv4 WAN. Or at least wasn't, though I doubt this changed.

I find myself unsure about IPv6.

maybe anycast?

my background isn't in networking, so I want to be sure I understand how Monero propagates transactions

I would think multicast would be ideal for cryptocurrencies but unsure the level of support available

Or anycast + relay

Or does each Monero node maintain an addressbook of all Monero nodes?

And just push to each?

afaik, u maintain 8 peers and transmit everything to each peer, and listen on all peers etc

ah, yes, I believe Bitcoin works the same no?

Here's an interesting link about someone pushing a new method...Erlay.

So when using TOR and I2P as proxies, does Monero push a copy of each transaction to each of the 8 nodes through both TOR and I2P?

...and the clearnet too?

for a potential of 3 copies going to each node?

And then they just drop copies?

perhaps for now while it's still experimental?

no idea

probably need to get anonimal on here

or does he hang out somewhere else?

(or she)

(or they) :)

theres #sekreta and #sekreta-dev

Different sockets, tx pushed N times.

spoke with anonimal and it seems kovri was integrated with monero independently and sekreta in another integration yet both are awaiting pulls? are they just awaiting the next version or are they on hold?

single pull request, separate libraries, unified interface.