11:27:59 <apxs94> Cool! Thanks. Comparing with another transaction recently, I guess the "only" noticeable difference on the link are the number of zeros in the extra field (which I guess is the nonce?)
11:28:20 <apxs94> Sorry! Wrong chat window *embarrassed face*
16:19:25 <selsta> 19:24 <moneromooo> Some wallet apparently started spending coins before 10 blocks, so we added a rule to slap it back down. It might well be that, since those txes are now invalid. <-- but that wouldn’t apply to normal wallets, right?
16:20:01 <selsta> normal = unmodified
16:29:35 <moneromooo> Unless bug.
16:33:58 <selsta> Would logs show up on daemon side?
16:35:40 <moneromooo> Yes.
16:38:39 <selsta> Ok. Maybe people who run public nodes can check their logs if something unusual is showing up.
16:39:30 <moneromooo> If they are on level 1.
18:10:54 <selsta> binaryFate: can you set the xmr.to public node to log level 1?
18:11:00 <selsta> maybe we can get logs this way
18:12:02 <binaryFate> what log are you looking for?
18:12:37 <binaryFate> can do tomorrow
18:12:44 <selsta> pending transaction issue
18:13:05 <selsta> we have a lot of reports of it but no logs
18:24:29 <binaryFate> ah yes, ok can do in the morning, probably not this evening
18:35:12 <selsta> ok thanks
18:48:49 <binaryFate> running now level 1, I can post some logs after dinner
18:50:56 <selsta> I would wait 24h with log level 1 or so
18:53:28 <binaryFate> ok
19:43:26 <PRetailer> Question for everybody, I am currently working on a project that "could" increase fungibility of Monero by axing the ability for miners to ask for anything less than the base_reward amount. My particular hurdle is working with C++ since I don't work with it alot.
19:44:40 <sarang> I would be interested to see data on how common this is
19:48:03 <asymptotically> what effect does it have on fungibility? if i decide to mine a block but not take the full reward
19:49:50 <sarang> Your transaction has a distinguishing characteristic, which is generally good to avoid
19:57:43 <moneromooo> What is the question ?
19:58:38 <sarang> Are there good reasons to keep the current behavior?
19:58:49 <sarang> (that's my question, at least)
19:59:03 <moneromooo> Sorry, I was asking PRetailer, who left us hanging :)
19:59:27 <PRetailer> haha sorry, i was talking with a fellow looking at the codebase.
19:59:27 <moneromooo> luigi1111 said the quantization could be used to decrease the amount range and save space IIRC.
20:00:23 <PRetailer> i was asking where the change would be in the codebase. Im looking at block validation in blockchain.cpp. Reason: i suck at C++
20:01:20 <PRetailer> and whether its better to just axe the field where the miner can ask for less or keep it there but add a verifier which throws an error if somebody does try to ask for less.
20:01:34 <PRetailer> also, if anybody is against this, please say something. i like debate
20:01:54 <lza_menace> why would the miner ask for less?
20:01:57 <moneromooo> in blockchain.cpp, search for:   // From hard fork 2, we allow a miner to claim less block reward than is allowed, in case a miner wants less dust
20:02:37 <moneromooo> Replace "if (version < 2)" with "if (version < 2 || version >= HV_VERSION_FULL_COINBASE)" and add that new define to cryponote_config.h
20:03:14 <moneromooo> You'll have to set quantization to 1 rather than 10k somewhere too. git grep quantiz.
20:03:30 <luigi1111> I don't think it increases fingibility to any significant degree
20:03:31 <moneromooo> That was to avoid getting idiotic 0.00000000002 outputs.
20:03:33 <luigi1111> fun
20:03:50 <moneromooo> Or 0.000000000732
20:03:50 <luigi1111> anyway the decrease in size doesn't matter for bulletproofs
20:04:52 <luigi1111> it's a kinda meh sure change it (for  size reasons not mattering anymore)
20:05:17 <luigi1111> that's quantizing though, there may be other considerations for fixing the amount
20:05:49 <moneromooo> We could conceivably force the quantized amount too :)
20:10:33 <PRetailer> hmmm can you explain why you would want to force quantizing too? (sorry for the questions, im newish to working with code in general) I focused more on economic stuff so this is basically new to me.
20:11:57 <moneromooo> To get homogeneity for this, but still have quantized amounts.
23:42:50 <selsta> Is coveralls still used?
23:45:20 <moneromooo> It never was. Someone affiliated with them contributed some setup and left. I have no idea how to use it. It might be useful if we can work out how it works.
23:56:35 <selsta> It stopped updating in 2016. Guess someone of the team has to login and check why. Not sure.