00:02:57 <luigi1111w> sgp_[m] done
00:06:16 <sgp_[m]> luigi1111w: can you please also mod sgp_:monero.social?
00:06:43 <sgp_> (direct irc approval for security)
00:07:09 <luigi1111w> that one?
00:07:56 <sgp_[m]1> wait never mind I think I have everything I need one sec
00:09:48 <sgp_> luigi1111w: okay, you can de-mod me from irc and matrix
00:10:33 <luigi1111w> matrix I don't have
00:15:56 <xmrscott[m]1> charuto: ^ (since you're the only Matrix based mod it looks like)
00:17:05 <xmrscott[m]1> sgp_: Actually, change the icon to the community one like the 'old' room before you demond
00:17:21 <xmrscott[m]1> Bad enough we have a bunch of same icon'd rooms XD
00:17:21 <sgp_[m]1> oh good point
00:17:43 <xmrscott[m]1>  * sgp_: Actually, change the icon to the community one like the 'old' room before you demod
00:20:56 <xmrscott[m]1> Should probably also make rehrar mod in Matrix too so they can update the room description for meetings, etc
00:21:56 <sgp_[m]1> yeah I can't do that sadly
00:22:36 <xmrscott[m]1> (And just for having 2 matrix based mods for the bus/vacation factor)
00:24:04 <rehrar[m]> I'll work with pigeons on getting the admin stuff set up soon
00:24:27 <sgp_[m]1> I've done a lot of stuff so far too, most rooms are properly birdged now :)
00:24:32 <sgp_[m]1>  * I've done a lot of stuff so far too, most rooms are properly bridged now :)
00:50:43 <sgp_[m]1> update: https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/549#issuecomment-780197739
06:17:01 <mechanic41turk[m> Cozy new room.
13:23:17 <fatcat[m]> I think current monero price has bubble. Most cryptocurrencies have bubble now.
13:23:34 <fatcat[m]> Crypto bubble is going to pop someday.
13:23:57 <sech1> Current Monero price is -50% from previous ATH. If anything, Monero is not in a bubble yet.
13:27:51 <Mumuks[m]> fatcat: come to #monero-markets:monero.social to discuss price
13:29:41 <Mumuks[m]> Is there some "official" place where I can get the monero icon?
13:34:04 <charolastra> fatcat[m]: what gives us the honor of your fundamental and detailed analysis?
13:34:39 <fatcat[m]> Most crypto prices are rising simultaneously. I smell USDT.
13:35:37 <sech1> USDT smelled even in 2017 pump, old news
13:36:15 <fatcat[m]> USD still smells rich.
13:36:21 <fatcat[m]>  * USD still smells rich. It is also an old news.
13:38:42 <fatcat[m]> It could be USD.
13:39:15 <midipoet> To be honest. What is actually stopping USDT from just printing tether and swapping it for BTC? Nothing, right? What stops any of the custodial stablecoins from doing that?
13:39:24 <midipoet> Can we not make a stablecoin?
13:39:33 <fatcat[m]> There is Dai.
13:39:47 <midipoet> I want to be able to print stablecoin and swap it for BTC
13:39:54 <midipoet> DAI doesn't help me in that regard.
13:40:25 <fatcat[m]> Let's say that the owner of Tether proposes a deal to a bank executive. The executive gives him 100 million dollars so that he can issue millions of USDT. In exchange for 100 million USD, tether owner gives 10 million USDT to the executive. Deal.
13:40:47 <fatcat[m]>  * Let's say that the owner of Tether proposes a deal to a bank executive. The executive gives him 100 million dollars so that he can issue 100 million USDT. In exchange for 100 million USD, tether owner gives 10 million USDT to the executive. Deal.
13:41:16 <fatcat[m]> The executive buys bitcoin with 10 million USDT.
13:41:40 <fatcat[m]>  * The executive buys bitcoin with 10 million USDT on bitfinex.
14:02:41 <charolastra> tether isn't pegged to crypto. he can issues as much as he wants
14:11:10 <DisBotXMR> <Bananaboat> it doesnt matter on the long-term charts...
14:11:28 <DisBotXMR> <Bananaboat> BTC is right where it was predicted to be years ago..
14:11:51 <DisBotXMR> <Bananaboat> just dont use USDT 😛
16:15:29 <xmrhaelan[m]> https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/212#note_10697
16:22:26 <mark_bleep[m]> <xmrhaelan[m] "https://repo.getmonero.org/moner"> If we can imagine the time after atomic swap is implemented, then BTC network effect becomes part of Monero  benefits.
16:22:59 <mark_bleep[m]> No need to detract BTC, but instead, focus on the positive.
16:27:14 <DatBotXMR> WAT
16:35:40 <snowkeld[m]1> I would like a bitcoin only wallet with atomic swap payment integration. Pay with xmr? Ok
16:41:14 <mark_bleep[m]> <snowkeld[m]1 "I would like a bitcoin only wall"> Exactly. Once atomic swap is working, BTC benefits become XMR benefits.
16:42:45 <mark_bleep[m]> No need to try to replace BTC. It'll happen naturally since the ways XMR is better will naturally be used.  The only thing in question will be how they'll be valued in relation to each other
16:44:03 <mark_bleep[m]> Like gold and cash right now
16:47:53 <sgp_> Mumuks[m]: do you still need the Monero icon? https://www.getmonero.org/press-kit/
16:48:12 <sgp_> USE THE VERSION ***WITH*** THE WHITE BACKGROUND please! pet peeve :)
16:53:27 <Mumuks[m]> sgp_: no, I got it thanks
17:44:07 <sethsimmons> <snowkeld[m]1 "I would like a bitcoin only wall"> Samourai is going to do this FWIW
17:44:20 <snowkeld[m]1> cool
18:20:07 <sgp_[m]1> is anyone sitting on #monero-defcon:matrix.org?
18:24:22 <sgp_[m]1> I made #monero-events so that we can use that, probably best to have one event-planning channel?
18:34:52 <dEBRUYNE> sethsimmons: Are they integrating XMR <-> BTC swaps into their wallet?
18:36:31 <sethsimmons> Thats their plan, yes
18:36:41 <sethsimmons> They're very closely following AS progress
18:36:42 <sgp_[m]1> sethsimmons: that's a natural fit for sure and even fits into the COMIT MVP model
18:42:29 <rottenwheel> <sgp_[m]1 "I made #monero-events so that we"> This sounds like a good idea. Can use that for Grayhat, DEFCON, CCC and Konferenco when each time comes by.
18:46:56 <kinghat[m]> is there an original svgs of the marketing material?
19:04:49 <midipoet> I was looking for the logos today. Why aren't they on the monero-project GitHub? Or are they? I had to scan through getmonero.org site repository to find them.
19:15:48 <rupee[m]1> https://www.getmonero.org/press-kit/
19:16:27 <rupee[m]1> yeah yeah, i didn't read your question
19:22:02 <midipoet> I did find it in the end, but thanks anyway.
20:08:32 <DatBotXMR> mooooooooooo
20:09:27 <kinghat[m]> you found the svgs?
20:17:26 <rehrar> sgp_ we should retire the Monero version without the white background
20:19:43 <sgp_> yes pls
20:23:13 <xmrscott[m]1> <sgp_[m]1 "is anyone sitting on #monero-def"> Technically me and msvb-lab various accounts
20:24:10 <xmrscott[m]1> Tombstoning though to redirect to -events should probably catch people up though whenever DEF CON planning strikes up again
20:41:05 <xmrscott[m]1> Also ajs is the only other village regular I haven't seen active in some form recently
20:43:33 <msvb-lab> Yes xmrscott, we are there in -defcon and sgp is there as well.
21:20:03 <jwinterm> is defcon irl this year?
21:33:18 <xmrscott[m]1> jwinterm: Unknown
21:33:40 <jwinterm> thx
21:33:47 <xmrscott[m]1> DarkTangent made the call late April/May last year, so probably won't know until then
21:35:50 <xmrscott[m]1> jwinterm: Looking back through social media, DC did retweet this tho so.... https://twitter.com/Evil_Mog/status/1358456867727413248?s=19
21:36:44 <jwinterm> ruhroh
21:37:09 <jwinterm> I thought I had seen something about their contracts with the hotels that was going to basically force them into holding it in person this year
21:37:11 <jwinterm> but maybe not
21:37:57 <nioc> stuck inside for long hrs with people
21:37:58 <xmrscott[m]1> I know MGM opened up their casinos this week(?)
21:38:01 <nioc> sounds great
21:39:01 <xmrscott[m]1> Last year was supposed to be Caesar's Forum space. This year is 2 hotels so... doesn't seem like they have confidence in at least it being big physically
21:41:21 <xmrscott[m]1> Might even got an answer based on CFP submissions: "In all of our calls for participation we have NEW questions for the COVID-19 era that will be used in deciding how much interest people have in remaining on-line only, hybrid, or in person only. "
21:41:42 <xmrscott[m]1> *get an answer when cfp close
22:04:29 <jwinterm> cool, I am rooting for in person cause I want to go to vegas and get cool badges
22:34:59 <snowkeld[m]1> So, cake wallet, Android. I can't remove a wallet?