15:04:37 <lh1008[m]> Hello everyone, I think we should try the #Tesla4XMR out. I know there has been already a wide discussion and people are annoyed and whatever they are annoyed for and it's okay to have that cranky sensation but we all are part of the community, so we should embrace what we don't like of each other and accept that we're different. Someone told me something funny yesterday, not every choice has to be democratically
15:04:37 <lh1008[m]> voted, and I'm okay with that, democracy also has its flaws. I'll be posting the #Tesla4XMR in twitter. If anyone want to join in you are welcome. The proposal is money so we should at least tell Elon Musk that there's money to buy some his products. Enjoy your weekend everyone.
15:06:04 <Mumuks[m]> lh1008: I would join you if I had a Twatter account
15:06:29 <Mumuks[m]> We need more fun initiatives that promote using monero as a currency
15:07:04 <Mumuks[m]> I read that the guys didn't write the idea in the best terms but I think it can be overlooked
15:07:33 <Mumuks[m]> It is a fun initiative, promotes Monero and promotes Monero as a currency, what's not to like?
15:08:00 <lh1008[m]> Yes, it's actually funny and a rocket launcher too. We have to point where the money is too. Sometimes we just limit ourselves (this is no critic to anyone, I was limited).
15:10:08 <mechanic41turk[m> lh1008: you can post whatever you want on your own twitter account.
15:11:39 <Inge-> Can we fundraise 3 flamethrowers we can donate to charity?
15:11:39 <lh1008[m]> Yep, I know, I'm just inviting those who have any doubts or feel they will be laughed or anything.
15:11:57 <lh1008[m]> That would be nice Inge-
15:13:22 <Mumuks[m]> <Inge- "Can we fundraise 3 flamethrowers"> Flamethrower for charity? I've heard worse things but maybe not the best and most practical idea?
15:13:34 <Mumuks[m]> I'm up for some charity though
15:13:37 <Inge-> lol
15:14:43 <luigi1111> here, use this to burn your buildings to the ground
15:15:07 <Mumuks[m]> Can you imagine if a homeless guy took the charity flamethrower and went to a McDonalds demanding food? That would be horrible and hilarious at the same time
15:15:07 <lh1008[m]> xD
15:15:38 <Inge-> flamethrowers with Monero on them
15:17:08 <luigi1111> good publicity
15:47:36 <nioc> musk will do nothing with monero
15:49:12 <nioc> Mumuks[m]: I though that burger king had flame broiled burgers
15:49:30 <nioc> or at least they painted the lines on them
16:52:42 <midipoet> We could do a CCS just to donate to a charity.
16:53:06 <midipoet> Or is that just too simple?
16:53:16 <sgp_> nah you could propose that
16:53:53 <sgp_> jwinterm: should we do a CCS for MAGIC? $5k for a year of scholarships
16:54:17 <sgp_> not specifically Monero-related though
17:09:40 <mechanic41turk[m> <midipoet "We could do a CCS just to donate"> only if charity accepts xmr -- "Charity, you have 21 days!!!"
17:09:54 <Mumuks[m]> <mechanic41turk[m "only if charity accepts xmr -- ""> Lol
17:14:00 <midipoet> mechanic41turk[m: nah. Just a straight CCS to reach a goal, and then donate
17:14:12 <midipoet> Keep it simple. But aim for a high amount
17:14:16 <midipoet> For the Goodwill
17:14:36 <midipoet> Hardy rocket science is it?
17:15:34 <mechanic41turk[m> midipoet: the original intent of xmr4monero was to gain the attention of Mr. Musk and get him to add monero payment option. Donating the electric cars to some charity, appears to be, a second thought.
17:15:59 <mechanic41turk[m> So, in your proposal for CCS, you are simply proposing that we give some money to CCS, pure and simple.
17:16:35 <mechanic41turk[m> give some money to charity*
17:16:41 <mechanic41turk[m> sorry I misphreased.
17:17:16 <midipoet> Yes
17:17:24 <midipoet> Just set an ambitious target
17:17:41 <midipoet> Choose a worthwhile charity, or set of charities
17:17:48 <midipoet> And ask the community to donate
17:17:49 <mechanic41turk[m> but why should people donate "an ambiitous sum" to some charity?
17:17:59 <mechanic41turk[m> is monero community that wealthy?
17:18:05 <mechanic41turk[m> I thot we were all neets /s
17:18:06 <midipoet> For no other reason than wanting to give to charity
17:18:51 <sethsimmons> why go through the CCS lol
17:18:53 <mechanic41turk[m> I think the community should keep their moneys to themselves, lest in the future they need those to fund some devs or code inspections.
17:18:55 <sethsimmons> just donate directly
17:19:06 <midipoet> sethsimmons: because then it's from the community
17:19:10 <midipoet> As a community effort
17:19:23 <sethsimmons> I dont see the point of the CCS in this case
17:19:37 <sethsimmons> And everyone loses out on tax savings
17:19:44 <midipoet> sethsimmons: fair enough. No charitable donations on the CCS
17:19:58 <midipoet> sethsimmons: I don't give to charity for tax
17:20:07 <midipoet> I give to charity for charity
17:20:20 <Mumuks[m]> <midipoet "For no other reason than wanting"> The idea is to do charity AND promote Monero
17:20:29 <mechanic41turk[m> <Mumuks[m] "The idea is to do charity AND pr"> this.
17:20:46 <Mumuks[m]> We need a good idea that is fun and newsworthy, not just donate to charity
17:20:47 <midipoet> if we set a high enough target and it's met and we donate. That would be good promotion
17:21:16 <Mumuks[m]> <midipoet "if we set a high enough target a"> I disagree
17:21:17 <sethsimmons> makes no sense to use the CCS
17:21:21 <sethsimmons> Just donate directly
17:21:28 <mechanic41turk[m> I don't see it generating much attention for the monero adoption, tho.
17:21:32 <midipoet> Fair enough. We live in a world where giving to charity for charities sake is not newsworthy. So be it
17:21:40 <Mumuks[m]> It will bring no promotion
17:21:42 <mechanic41turk[m> <mechanic41turk[m "I don't see it generating much a"> I meant this for midipoet
17:22:02 <midipoet> Set a high enough target it will if it's met
17:22:54 <sethsimmons> doesnt make any sense to me but go for it
17:23:03 <sethsimmons> This tesla thing shouldnt have been CCS
17:23:05 <midipoet> nah, was just an idea. I couldn't be arsed
17:23:15 <sethsimmons> And I dont see how something even less clearly beneficial for Monreo makes more sense.
17:23:19 <Mumuks[m]> I don't think you realize the big amounts people donate and get no attention
17:23:22 <sethsimmons> Not that charity is bad or a bad cause
17:23:28 <sethsimmons> But people can just.. donate themselves to what they want
17:23:35 <Mumuks[m]> But as sethsimmons try it if you think it will work
17:23:45 <midipoet> I definitely think it would work
17:23:54 <Mumuks[m]> We need a good idea, something fun and newsworthy
17:24:04 <Mumuks[m]> Anyone has any idea?
17:24:23 <mechanic41turk[m> <midipoet "Set a high enough target it will"> Do it outside the CCS. If it doesn't get funded, then, the CCS would look like from a community of inorganized, stingy individuals.
17:24:27 <midipoet> But people might be like "what a waste of the CCS", or "what a waste of XMR", or "that XMR should be for Devs". Or some other such sort
17:24:36 <mechanic41turk[m> That would look bad on whole CCS stuff.
17:24:55 <midipoet> mechanic41turk[m: it would just be fair reflection of the community imp
17:24:58 <midipoet> *imo
17:25:16 <midipoet> but I do think it would reach the target
17:25:30 <midipoet> That's just my view though
17:25:37 <mechanic41turk[m> midipoet: if you make the goal for donation 1 mill dollars, or some near-impossible target, how would that be a fair reflection of the community?
17:25:53 <mechanic41turk[m> Near-impossible goals are near-impossible to achieve.
17:26:22 <mechanic41turk[m> Boasting it within some CCS, with the hopes of generating some good publicity, in the event that it fails, would result in blunder.
17:26:49 <Mumuks[m]> It really would be cool to come up with a good fun idea for charity
17:26:50 <midipoet> Oh I don't think it would have to be that big to make a stir
17:27:07 <Mumuks[m]> This guy in the USA was handing free bitcoin bch in a city, it got attention in the news
17:27:17 <midipoet> Yup
17:27:21 <midipoet> That was a nice idea
17:27:48 <Mumuks[m]> midipoet: 1 million usd in donations will get zero attention just because of the amount, for donations that's small
17:28:14 <midipoet> Mumuks[m]: you think $1m is small?
17:28:25 <midipoet> From an open source project?
17:28:45 <midipoet> Tough audience!
17:30:03 <midipoet> We could pick a charity in Nigeria (where they have recently banned crypto)
17:30:16 <sech1> send money to Nigerian prince?
17:30:22 <midipoet> Obviously someone would have to convert to their local currency first
17:30:24 <Mumuks[m]> No, I think for the news someone or a group donating 1 mill is not newsworthy
17:30:44 <midipoet> Mumuks[m]: I don't agree, to be honest, but maybe it is
17:30:48 <mechanic41turk[m> Nigeria, you have 21 days!!
17:31:20 <sech1> honestly, 1M spent for proper marketing would do much more
17:31:30 <mechanic41turk[m> sech1: agreed.
17:32:57 <midipoet> oh. I didn't know the goal was price go up
17:33:04 <midipoet> I thought it was just Goodwill
17:35:01 <mechanic41turk[m> midipoet: you think marketing is done only to facilitate number go up?
17:35:10 <mechanic41turk[m> How about more brick-and-mortar merchant acceptance?
17:35:28 <midipoet> mechanic41turk[m: honestly I think marketing is one of the worst things the world ever created.
17:35:50 <mechanic41turk[m> well, shifting the topic, now.
17:36:27 <midipoet> mechanic41turk[m: a little, admittedly, yes.
17:36:37 <midipoet> But you like the adtech industry?
17:36:46 <midipoet> You like the advertisement industry?
17:36:47 <mechanic41turk[m> Sorry, I gotta go.
17:54:40 <sgp_> trivia tonight!
17:54:47 <sgp_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJUS5U2vK80
17:54:47 <monerobux> [ Monero Trivia! 2021-02-12 - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
17:54:54 <Mumuks[m]> mechanic41turk: we should think again about good ideas for a campaign
17:56:54 <rupee[m]1> IMO we should try to increase the userbase to the point where exchanges cannot ignore the demand and will in tern be motivated to educate regulators, banks, auditors, and insurance providers so that they can support it so that it makes it more useful for people that want to use it, even if that means that the price might go up also
17:57:27 <rupee[m]1> it's not about number go up per se, but it's also not about actively trying to suppress the price so that you dont' feel like a shill
17:59:24 <nioc> musk will do nothing with this CCS "offer"
17:59:33 <rupee[m]1> of course he won't
18:00:45 <nioc> oh good I saw the obvious :D
18:01:08 <rupee[m]1> i wish I weren't ignorant about marketing and advertising, but I am and don't know what to do to increase adoption, but I think we need to get the word out and improve monero's image in a more aggressive way, but I don't know what that is
18:01:36 <nioc> tell people that we now have a GUI
18:01:57 <rupee[m]1> :-)
18:01:59 <rupee[m]1> .multisig
18:02:00 <monerobux> 𝓼𝓲𝓰𝓷𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮 𝓼𝓲𝓰𝓷𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
18:02:11 <rupee[m]1> .gui
18:02:11 <monerobux> http://imgur.com/a/hnxfS
18:05:44 <charolastra> lol
18:23:07 <binaryFate> rehrar luigi1111 can one of you update the topic to mention the next meeting? I'm not OP https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/550
18:25:46 <luigi1111> I'm on mobile and at lunch
18:27:20 <binaryFate> no hurry
18:27:43 <binaryFate> bon appétit
18:29:07 <kinghat[m]> https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FR5t0p.gif
18:29:43 <luigi1111> I made you op
18:29:46 <kinghat[m]> https://i.imgur.com/R5t0p.gif
19:07:37 <luigi1111> I should be there
20:19:52 <fluffydonkey[m]> Are people here using https://github.com/monero-integrations/monerowp in production?
20:19:52 <fluffydonkey[m]> What has your experience been like with it?
20:33:31 <SerHack> fluffydonkey: I'm the lead maintainer, let me know if you have any questions.
20:36:01 <fluffydonkey[m]> SerHack: Thanks for writing this!  I'm just wondering how battle-tested the plugin is - in terms of security
20:36:37 <fluffydonkey[m]> battle-tested or peer-reviewed
20:40:15 <fluffydonkey[m]> I see there's also https://github.com/monero-integrations/moneroodoo
20:40:15 <fluffydonkey[m]> I haven't used Odoo, but that also looks interesting!
20:40:37 <SerHack> that odoo extension was not written by me, but it's such good work!
20:41:07 <fluffydonkey[m]> I've been debating if I should write something like BTCPay for monero - but If i can use one of these projects, it will save me a lot of time
21:19:02 <sgp_> If all goes well, this channel will be bridged to the Discord tonight. It was bridged before, but if you have concerns lmk
21:22:54 <nioc> The barbarians are at the gate
21:27:01 <xmrscott[m]1> https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-08-2016/2yzvpk.gif
21:36:52 <needmoney90> Is that a series of unfortunate things gif?
21:36:56 <needmoney90> I only read the books
22:02:50 <xmrscott[m]1> Yes, the older one starring Jim Carrey that condenses the first three books into a movie