00:10:57 * xmrscott meeps
00:11:36 * xmrscott[m]1 pongs
00:55:36 <tokineko[m]> Where is monero social?
00:56:40 <sethsimmons> https://matrix.monero.social
01:53:06 <rehrar[m]> In our hearts.
01:54:45 <tokineko[m]> Does LMDB benefit from online defragmentation?
01:57:16 <tokineko[m]> I am going to experiment with new btrfs mount options for better LMDB performance. `noatime,nodatacow,space_cache=v2`
01:57:39 <tokineko[m]>  * I am going to experiment with new btrfs mount options for better LMDB performance on HDD. `noatime,nodatacow,space_cache=v2`
06:58:03 <ianthius> there used to be a gambling bot in #monero, does anyone remember who ran that? I am interested in seeing if i can get my XMR balance from that. If it hasn't already been spent :)
07:10:00 <Mumuks[m]> sethsimmons: you or whoever runs it should change the welcome page, it is even still pointing to matrix.org
07:37:31 <fatcat[m]> Can I trust tokenized stocks traded on bittrex and FTX are actually backed by acutal stocks?
07:37:37 <fatcat[m]>  * Can I trust that tokenized stocks traded on bittrex and FTX are actually backed by acutal stocks?
08:27:30 <modul8[m]> not your stocks not your stocks, no. *dont know anything about the topic
08:39:24 <mechanic41turk[m> <sethsimmons "https://matrix.monero.social"> room dir public wen
11:27:21 <cankerwort[m]> tokineko: hyc is the person to talk to about this
12:42:31 <vikrants[m]> hey all
13:57:03 <sgp_> ErCiccione[m]: why would we stop using the matrix.org rooms?
13:57:19 <sgp_> Anything to help with discovery by matrix.org users is a good thing imo
13:57:57 <ErCiccione[m]> but that's not what's going to happen with the current settings. Two different rooms will be found by people. That's not what you want. You want one room available from all servers and aliased where needed
13:58:48 <ErCiccione[m]> Right now matrix users are communciating through the freenode bridge. It's a waste of resources, adds latency and it's not as it's meant to work
13:59:35 <ErCiccione[m]> You only want one matrix room reachable through federation. The current setting is flawed (see my suggestions in the issue)
14:01:29 <ErCiccione[m]> i already aliased monero-translations to monero.social. You can see how the room (hosted on my server) is available in the room list of monero.social, which is the expected behaviout
14:01:35 <ErCiccione[m]> *behaviour
14:48:24 <ErCiccione[m]> i wrote more details in https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/549#issuecomment-775994083
14:55:27 <mechanic41turk[m> ErCiccione: when can matrix users outside the monero.social instance can add monero.social's room directory to their clients for browsing the rooms in monero.social?
15:01:43 <ErCiccione[m]> They can join the rooms directly by using they address. I explained how to publish monero.social rooms on other servers in the comment i posted above (at the bottom)
15:02:22 <mechanic41turk[m> Reading the github thread now, thanks.
15:02:38 <ErCiccione[m]> np
16:25:13 <Mumuks[m]> ErCiccione: I can add other addresses to the monero-market room
16:26:11 <Mumuks[m]> I could add monero-markets:monero.social as an address for the room
16:28:08 <gingeropolous> for some reason the link on here: https://ccs.getmonero.org/how-to-ccs/
16:28:16 <gingeropolous> for this: https://ccs.getmonero.org/what-is-ccs
16:28:23 <gingeropolous> links to this: https://ccs.getmonero.org:8080/what-is-ccs/
16:28:29 <Mumuks[m]> OK, apparently it needs to be added as a local address first
16:31:20 <ErCiccione[m]> Mumuks: yeah. i would wait until the people involved in setting up the server decides what to do
16:32:24 <Mumuks[m]> ErCiccione: how can it be added as a local address? The guys of the server need to so it?
16:34:24 <ErCiccione[m]> yeah an admin needs to add a local address (an avilaable one, obviously). You can take a look at the settings of #monero-site:haveno.network to get an idea.
16:36:15 <Mumuks[m]> ErCiccione: I get the idea, not sure who has to do it, an admin of the server or an admin of the room?
16:37:15 <ErCiccione[m]> it's not so simple right now, but the admins of the rooms,
16:38:11 <Mumuks[m]> ErCiccione: I have tried adding #monero-markets:monero.social and it won't let me, something about adding it locally first
16:39:55 <ErCiccione[m]> yes, below you have the option to add a local address, but you need to be an admin on the room on that server
16:40:13 <Mumuks[m]> Oh, I see
16:41:37 <Mumuks[m]> ErCiccione: so the problem is that I am admin of that room but in matrix.org, not in monero.social?
16:42:54 <ErCiccione[m]> you need an account created on the monero.social server with admin rights on the room
16:44:15 <Mumuks[m]> I see, that's a bit confusing, so you can be admin of the room in one server but not in another, what happens in that case with moderation decisions? Sounds weird
16:45:26 <gingeropolous> any movement / thoughts on "
16:45:26 <gingeropolous> xiphon full-time coding
16:45:26 <gingeropolous> " and "mj part time coding - 3 months" ?
16:45:40 <ErCiccione[m]> No, it's only to have the local address for that server. The room is one
16:46:01 <gingeropolous> they both seem good
16:49:00 <Mumuks[m]> ErCiccione: so what is the way forward to solve this?
16:53:18 <nioc> gingeropolous: I have positive thoughts for both.  mj was brought up briefly at the last community meeting.  This request has been there for a while with no real action on the communities part
16:53:42 <nioc> xiphon's is a recent request
16:55:11 <ErCiccione[m]> Mumuks: i'm sending you a PM
16:55:34 <nioc> mj-xmr has a good presence on -dev but being that I am not technical it is difficult to evaluate
16:55:56 <nioc> mebbe selsta has some input although he is not here
17:39:03 <dEBRUYNE> Great meme -> https://twitter.com/tyler_duerden/status/1358921518156107777
21:40:57 <goatyydstx> I think everyone here knows that most Monero exchange withdrawals and desposits are traceable (Breaking Monero - poisoned outputs). How does it feel to go out and lie to people that they are private and then earn less than holding BTC on your bag?
22:12:16 <snowkeld[m]1> <goatyydstx "I think everyone here knows that"> If kraken does what you say where is the traceability lost after withdrawal? How many sends? Do they know the following address beyond your own?
22:18:35 <nioc> snowkeld[m]1: just a spammer that leaves after they post
22:23:08 <snowkeld[m]> Well if there's any merit to the claim I'd love to know the details
22:43:51 <jwinterm> snowkeld[m], look at ABA or ABC attacks I think they're called