00:19:03 <sethsimmons[m]> New Seth 😎
00:26:33 <sethsimmons[m]> <rehrar[m] "Feel free to join matrix.monero."> Think there might be some federation problems. I can't DM @appservice-irc and can't join any channels/communities in usethe.tools server.
00:34:43 <sethsimmons[m]> Was able to get IRC bridge working, still working on the other issue.
00:45:32 <sethsimmons> All working now 😎
00:45:43 <sethsimmons> Just needed an invite to the other home server and all is well.
00:45:49 <sethsimmons> Great work whoever set this up!
01:10:08 <sethsimmons> Joining rooms on other home servers via links does not work, FWIW. That seems to be the only outstanding issue.
01:32:17 <rehrar[m]> Sath Sammons
01:36:20 <sethsimmons> Which one is the imposter 👀
02:19:53 <xmrscott[m]1> Meep
03:16:09 <sgp_> how do I sign up? maybe a dumb question
03:16:23 <xmrscott[m]1> sgp_: Depends on client
03:16:35 <xmrscott[m]1> Basically just specify home server as matrix.monero.social
03:17:19 <sgp_> does it work in element web?
03:17:38 <xmrscott[m]1> Presumably. It works in the desktop version which is barely different TMK
03:22:03 <sgp_> can we set up these IRC bridges as rooms there?
03:22:25 <xmrscott[m]1> Should be able to, yes. No reason why we couldn't unless AppService isn't set up
03:23:01 <sgp_> I think that's a huge UX improvement
03:23:20 <sgp_> I'm greeted with this; no rooms https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/wILU9GiM/matrix
03:23:34 <sgp_> if there were the bridged rooms on the left, that would be amazing imo
03:27:32 <xmrscott[m]1> You can create 'Communities' which is basically a collection of rooms
03:32:28 <xmrscott[m]1> ErCiccione has one on the matrix.org home server
03:33:49 <sgp_> I made a public MS room there and bridged it successfully
03:41:41 <sgp_> okay, I see the communities part
03:41:58 <sgp_> is there a way to auto-add people to a default community? with the most common channels?
03:42:18 <xmrscott[m]1> I couldn't find anything w/ a quick search, but perhaps I missed something
03:44:19 <sgp_> https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/issues/5243
03:45:07 <sgp_> it's actually pretty lame we can't do this, since it would streamline the initial onboarding a lot
03:46:34 <xmrscott[m]1> Could always put the link for the 'Community' set in -community room's topic
03:46:56 <xmrscott[m]1> As a workaround, assuming -community would be the most visisted
03:47:20 <xmrscott[m]1> The nice thing is that it only shows 'local' rooms, which are Monero rooms, so not much noise to begin with
03:47:45 <sgp_> agreed, once they click on the list of rooms it's pretty straightforward
06:48:47 <Mumuks[m]> <xmrscott[m]1 "The nice thing is that it only s"> Is it not federated?
07:06:04 <mechanic41turk[m> BTW, can you guys set the local room directory at monero.social to public, so that people from other homeservers can add monero.social's homeserver for browsing its chat rooms?
07:06:05 <mechanic41turk[m> See: https://github.com/vector-im/element-web/issues/13661#issuecomment-628593272
07:12:56 <xmrscott[m]1> <Mumuks[m] "Is it not federated?"> It is. What I'm referring to is the reference Element client UI only showing by default the local rooms when you click the compass icon. If you use the dropdown within that menu, you can select matrix.org, etc. (Which is how I'm tied into the Monero Translations room on matrix.org)
07:13:29 <xmrscott[m]1> > <@Mumuks:matrix.org> Is it not federated?
07:13:29 <xmrscott[m]1>  * It is. What I'm referring to is the reference Element client UI only showing by default the local rooms when you click the compass icon. If you use the dropdown within that menu, you can select matrix.org, etc. (Which is how I'm tied into the Monero Translations room on matrix.org since currently that hasn't been bridged yet on monero.social)
07:13:40 * mechanic41turk[m uploaded an image: image.png (24KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/halogen.city/df2702130e19dac2271bb44f2a724c70c0699aa8/image.png >
07:14:35 * xmrscott[m]1 uploaded an image: image.png (45KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/monero.social/JUqbxVjECXELKPpgSGXjXjEE/image.png >
07:14:38 <xmrscott[m]1> This is what I'm referring to: ^
07:15:14 <xmrscott[m]1> <mechanic41turk[m "image.png"> Almost. It's matrix.monero.social
07:15:53 <mechanic41turk[m> xmrscott: https://matrix.monero.social/_matrix/client/r0/publicRooms returns access token missing
07:15:57 * mechanic41turk[m uploaded an image: image.png (23KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/halogen.city/614ee3d74401aae9edf978025a18050a5aaf15dc/image.png >
07:16:16 <mechanic41turk[m> <mechanic41turk[m "xmrscott: https://matrix.monero."> that probably points out that the room directory of monero.social is not public
07:17:06 <mechanic41turk[m> See again: https://github.com/vector-im/element-web/issues/13661#issuecomment-628593272
07:17:15 <mechanic41turk[m> the room directory for people who signed up on monero.social is visible, since it is their own homeserver.
07:17:32 <mechanic41turk[m> But for people like me who have other homeservers, the room directory of monero.social is foreign and not public.
07:17:59 <mechanic41turk[m> As far as I could understand from the github thread I posted, the admin of the matrix instance must make the room directory public.
07:22:30 <xmrscott[m]1> Yeah, this seems to be the case messing around on mobile. Looks like admins will need to update config rehrar : ^ pigeons ^
07:24:08 <xmrscott[m]1> FWIW, found a bug w/ the Element client on desktop. Once you've specified a different home server, if you log out and try to select the matrix.org home server, it doesn't remember the selection, so you're effectively barred from matrix.org again. tl;dr if using Element, no going back to matrix.org if you use a different home sever
07:24:42 <xmrscott[m]1>  * FWIW, found a bug w/ the Element client on desktop. Once you've specified a different home server, if you log out and try to select the matrix.org home server, it doesn't remember the selection, so you're effectively barred from matrix.org again. tl;dr if using Element, no going back to matrix.org if you use a different home server
07:24:58 <mechanic41turk[m> you can use element web to access matrix.org homeserver, if you want.
07:25:15 <xmrscott[m]1> True, or any number of other clients like NeoChat, etc
07:25:20 <mechanic41turk[m> yep.
07:26:50 <xmrscott[m]1> Once the Monero.social rooms are public and bridged, can probably try to decommission the Matrix.org rooms
07:27:04 <mechanic41turk[m> makes sense.
07:27:20 <mechanic41turk[m> make sure to update the invite links on the getmonero.org, too 😉
07:27:32 <xmrscott[m]1> Yep, that too 🙂
07:27:51 <xmrscott[m]1> Can probably find all the references with some simple Google foo
07:40:36 * mechanic41turk[m sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/eeHHpDUVKfSQouRzPXOssCpG/message.txt >
07:40:59 <mechanic41turk[m> xmrscott: this was a solution that another fella of mine worked out.
07:41:42 * mechanic41turk[m sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/AcswLpYbUhemUTtELubTIdxx/message.txt >
07:42:17 <mechanic41turk[m> It was the same issue, not being able to add bitcoinenemies.com homeserver to your client's room directory.
07:42:47 <mechanic41turk[m> Now, I succeeded in adding that matrix homeserver to my client to browse, and can see all the public chat rooms in that homeserver.
07:52:59 <rehrar> xmrscott[m]1: ok we'll look into it.
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14:50:48 <cankerwort[m]> When all these Matrix shenanigans are figures out, might be a good idea to make a simple guide for Element users to join on Getmonero.org
14:56:38 <mechanic41turk[m> Here are two good introductory material for matrix: https://watch.breadtube.tv/videos/watch/0da559a4-1e1d-46bd-aed3-cda4abdce6de and https://glowers.club/wiki/doku.php?id=wiki:newfriends
16:58:21 <xmrscott[m]> <cankerwort[m] "When all these Matrix shenanigan"> I believe sgp is working on one in -space
20:07:59 <nioc> https://localmonero.co/knowledge/monero-better-store-of-value
20:28:28 <rupee[m]1> when trying to add an email address to my monero.social matrix account, the confirmation email never comes. anyone else have trouble with that?
20:30:57 <rupee[m]1> s/matrix/element
20:30:57 <monerobux> rupee[m]1 meant to say: when trying to add an email address to my monero.social element account, the confirmation email never comes. anyone else have trouble with that?
20:31:09 <xmrscott[m]1> Have you tried checking spam?
20:31:16 <rupee[m]1> yes
20:34:41 <rupee[m]1> i got it to work with a different email address
20:47:50 <xmrscott[m]1> Hmm, curious
20:48:48 <xmrscott[m]1> It may have to do with the spam point system email providers use and tutanote having a higher threshhold than Protonmail
20:49:14 <xmrscott[m]1> As in, tutanote won't even put it in spam if it's below a certain set of 'points'
20:50:20 <xmrscott[m]1> I suppose reh or pige could use https://www.mail-tester.com/ and see if they can bring the score up a bit
21:04:24 <pigeons> xmrscott yeah we are going to setup email in a bit
21:06:09 <pigeons> xmrscott if you want to take note of the other issues like making the room directory public and message me or rehrar we'll keep a list and do them shortly
21:06:37 <xmrscott[m]1> I can probably just create a giant meta task list I guess
21:06:57 <pigeons> sounds good, just point me to it if you want me to see it
21:07:12 <xmrscott[m]1> Will do
22:13:29 <xmrscott[m]1> pigeons: https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/549 There's probably a few other IRC rooms that could be listed, but I just listed the ones from the website for now
22:44:00 <pigeons> thanks