00:07:55 <rehrar> 17 UTC.
00:37:27 <xmrscott[m]> Meta issue wehn
00:38:40 <xmrscott[m]> Also, the Matrix room description should probably be updated to de-reference CoffeeChat and DEF CON by someone w/ mod privs
00:49:14 <xrv0> I made a provably fair monero lottery. It's still in development and this is only a stagenet version. https://249f47063f54.ngrok.io/ What do you guys think?
00:49:23 <xrv0> I'm open to any criticism or feedback.
00:49:57 <xrv0> I plan on donating 50% of the profits to the general fund.
01:06:36 <sgp_> monero meet tomorrow at 18 utc https://forum.monero.space/d/77-monero-meet-saturday-6-february-2021-at-18-utc
03:14:49 <rottenwheel> <xmrscott[m] "Also, the Matrix room descriptio"> charuto.
09:42:05 <Inge-> when was this discussed for moving to funding required? https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/anon-perfect-peer-to-peer-protocol.html
10:00:38 <sech1> Inge- read comments https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/204
10:12:51 <Inge-> requires sign-in to read?
10:14:36 <Inge-> oh bad url
13:57:20 <charuto> <xmrscott[m] "Also, the Matrix room descriptio"> removed previous topic, might add a different one that could better describe the channel later
13:57:31 <charuto> <rottenwheel "charuto. "> thanks for the ping
14:03:15 <xmrhaelan[m]> <binaryFate "sgp_ xmrhaelan ^"> Done
16:25:05 <netrik182[m]> am I supposed to open/forward ports when running monerod over tor? I'm no in connections, only out:12(out)+0(in)
16:25:32 <netrik182[m]> s/I'm no/I'm getting no
16:25:32 <monerobux> netrik182[m] meant to say: am I supposed to open/forward ports when running monerod over tor? I'm getting no in connections, only out:12(out)+0(in)
16:25:33 <jwinterm> I think if you're behind a router you have to do that if you want inbound connection netrik182[m]
16:25:37 <jwinterm> tor or no tor
16:26:20 <netrik182[m]> ok, will try
16:26:41 <netrik182[m]> I really thought it wasn't necessary for tor somehow
16:26:55 <jwinterm> I'm not sure tbh
16:45:02 <rehrar> hello my beauties
16:51:44 <mechanic41turk[m> yo rehrar
16:53:07 <rehrar> meeting here in 7 minutes
16:59:56 <rehrar> ok we can have a meeting
17:00:00 <rehrar> to discuss meeting-like things
17:00:09 <rehrar> Who is here for the meeting?
17:00:20 <cankerwort[m]> Aloha
17:01:05 <mechanic41turk[m> lurking
17:01:32 <cankerwort[m]> This meeting does not appear to have been promoted on reddit etc.
17:02:10 <rehrar> I'm still not used to running the meetings. And since attendance is sparse, maybe we push to next week and I'll advertise more?
17:02:17 <rehrar> I'll buy some Facebook ads or something.
17:02:32 <mechanic41turk[m> haha... however you say :)
17:02:34 <sgp_> Hello
17:02:47 <Rivensplit> lurking as well
17:03:09 <xmrscott[m]> Meep
17:03:12 <cankerwort[m]> Most ideas on the CCS appear to be translation related
17:03:31 <rehrar> cankerwort[m]: let's talk about the two that aren't
17:03:57 <rehrar> er, the on that isn't
17:03:58 <rehrar> https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/200/diffs
17:04:11 <rehrar> the other is this guy: https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/203
17:04:16 <cankerwort[m]> The anon network thing looks pretty cool, seems a but odd to me that we push for audits of new crypto but not network level stuffs
17:04:19 <rehrar> and he's been doing this a long time so he should be merged imo
17:05:07 <SerHack> Hi!
17:05:10 <rehrar> yo
17:05:39 <msvb-web7> Hello.
17:05:58 <msvb-web7> I'm read only today, really poor network connection.
17:06:02 <rehrar> ok
17:06:14 <sgp_> Second def should be merged, first probably? I don't know well enough
17:06:19 <rehrar> Well, one thing I wanted to ask, and since we have a few people and lurkers here, it's as good a time as any.
17:06:24 <rehrar> MoneroKon.
17:06:39 <rehrar> So, it's looking unlikely this year that things will be ok for a physical conference.
17:07:09 <rehrar> And even if one country was ok with a limited, local conference, the international travel thing would be a nightmare.
17:07:26 <sgp_> Theoretically we can try Nov/Dec but I don't love that
17:08:42 <cankerwort[m]> Can we steal the VR environment built for the MCC thing last year and plaster it with Monero logos
17:09:01 <cankerwort[m]> That was a pretty good time for a VR event
17:09:03 <rehrar> While it's still early in the year, and theoretically possible that something miraculous could happen with the vaccination process leading to things being ok, I think we should plan for a physical conference to not be a thing in 2021.
17:09:26 <rehrar> up to fluffypony, I guess :P
17:09:35 <xmrscott[m]> Yes, if nothing else, probably won't be safe stateside until beginning of 2022
17:09:44 <rehrar> so yeah, the question. Do we want to try for something virtual?
17:09:46 <fluffypony> what did I do now
17:09:56 <rehrar> fluffypony: give us your hard work on your conference stuff for free plz
17:10:12 <mechanic41turk[m> noice
17:10:37 <sgp_> I vote yes virtual
17:10:56 <cankerwort[m]> It was all pretty cool except that there was limited/no interaction between speakers and audience
17:11:07 <rehrar> Since MoneroKon leans very much toward the academic, and it'll be two years since the last one, I think that's a ton of research that has potentially happened in the past two years. So I don't think we'll be hurting for content.
17:11:18 <rehrar> cankerwort[m]: they don't like to hang with the plebs.
17:11:27 <cankerwort[m]> But most speakers were hanging out in the shared spaces at some point and there was a lot of good "hallway moments"
17:12:10 <rehrar> C3 also used some sort of virtual thingy. binaryFate do you recall what it was?
17:12:13 <sgp_> I think we just need to do our best there and hope it's good enough
17:12:55 <rehrar> and if we do think virtual this year is a good idea, about when would be the time?
17:13:00 <cankerwort[m]> Although I remember one guy in the audience who left his mic on really loud with some political conspiracy podcast, was pretty annoying
17:13:02 <rehrar> Summer again? tomorrow?
17:13:19 <sgp_> Tomorrow; go diego go!
17:14:01 <sgp_> Realistically: June imo
17:14:32 <Rivensplit> how much time will it take to scrounge up the speakers/hype?
17:14:37 <rehrar> that's what I was thinking yeah
17:15:04 <sgp_> Even though it's an academic conference, I think we should spend equal attention on engagement activities like games and other fun things (still can be educational)
17:15:11 <rehrar> Rivensplit: speakers? unsure. We want to have a pretty long process to apply so we have time to get word out and get a good variety of people.
17:15:26 <rehrar>  sgp_ like building a functioning blockchain in minecraft
17:16:57 <cankerwort[m]> The Townforge guy could have a stall! Not that I've actually tried out the game
17:17:04 <cankerwort[m]> Live Minko
17:17:42 <rehrar> anyways, I just wanted to get a feel for others opinion on this topic
17:17:46 <sgp_> Yeah I think there are many possible avenues to explore
17:17:56 <sgp_> Note also the Moneroversary in April
17:18:07 <rehrar> ye, let's do something fun. i have some ideas.
17:18:27 <cankerwort[m]> I think something like the MCC event or Reckless VR stuff would be a great idea
17:18:27 <sgp_> Cool
17:18:48 <cankerwort[m]> Better than just live streamed zoom meetings
17:19:18 <rehrar> I think the amount of people who would be genuinely excited for another zoom-like conference is exactly zero
17:19:35 <sgp_> Yeah I'd watch the talks later tbh lol
17:19:44 <sgp_> Just wait for them to be added to YT
17:20:52 <rehrar> Ok. Anything else anyone wants to discuss about something Monero related?
17:20:55 <cankerwort[m]> Yeah my plan with the MCC thing was just attend the talks I was particularly interested in or wanted to ask a question at. Of course, then I realised audience questions were not an option.
17:22:43 <Rivensplit> Is the 2021 Monero roadmap accurate on https://www.getmonero.org/resources/roadmap/ ?
17:23:40 <rehrar> I don't think we have anyone actively working on Triptych related things right now.
17:23:59 <cankerwort[m]> Bulletproof+ should be in 2021 not "future"
17:24:17 <cankerwort[m]> Atomic swaps are missing
17:24:23 <rehrar> I think most of 2021 belongs in future and most of future belongs in 2021 :P
17:24:33 <cankerwort[m]> As are lots of other smaller things
17:24:50 <cankerwort[m]> Yeah looks like it 😆
17:27:01 <rehrar> well, if nothing else. We can call it here then.
17:27:09 <rehrar> Sorry guys, next time I'll post on reddit and elsewhere.
17:27:20 <rehrar> See if we can't get some people in here so we can have arguments about small things like usual.
17:27:31 <Rivensplit> Thanks for hosting!
17:27:42 <rehrar> yw
17:27:47 <sgp_> Monero Meet in 30 mins! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTVMrLsIpIM
17:27:47 <monerobux> [ Monero Meet 2021-02-06 - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
17:27:59 <cankerwort[m]> Thanks for calling a meeting rehrar. Hopefully we can have some juicy drama next week
17:28:03 <sgp_> DM me if you need an invite to participate in the call directly, otherwise enjoy on youtube!
17:29:05 <mechanic41turk[m> sgp_: is there a way to partake in the chat without using youtube?
17:29:06 <mechanic41turk[m> it is connected to my real name/etc., which I do not want to reveal.
17:29:40 <cankerwort[m]> You can create a pseudonymous YT account I guess
17:29:40 <mechanic41turk[m> are you going to monitor this chat, maybe, for the monero meet?
17:30:34 <sgp_> mechanic41turk[m: it's best to make a pseudonymous account; sometimes I don't have the time to watch this chat in the moment also
17:31:32 <sgp_> is it under switch account -> more accounts -> create a channel?
17:31:56 <binaryFate> <rehrar> C3 also used some sort of virtual thingy. binaryFate do you recall what it was? <--- https://workadventu.re
17:32:46 <binaryFate> I love the retro style, and much easier to use than 3D virtual stuff for going around to presentations, discussing etc
17:33:35 <binaryFate> also easier to customize I suppose
17:44:24 <lspkvyqr> What kind of person steals from own community?np.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/6d5yt5/_/ Your own leaders are laughing at how stupid you are for falling for thier 'Magical Crypto Friendship'
18:44:38 <rehrar> hello pigeons[m]!
18:44:54 <pigeons[m]> hi
18:48:01 <mechanic41turk[m> monero has a matrix server now? or is that yours only, pigeons: ?
18:48:11 <rehrar[m]> It's ours. We're testing.
18:48:16 <mechanic41turk[m> great
19:14:10 <sethsimmons> <rehrar[m] "It's ours. We're testing. "> Ohhhh nice
19:28:41 <sgp_> yeah, I will definitely sign up for that :)
19:28:51 <sgp_> glad to see this important infra
19:37:52 <cankerwort[m]> I search for "Monero.social" in Matrix and I see no results
19:39:05 <mechanic41turk[m> cankerwort: monero.social is probably the domain that has synapse (matrix server implementation).
19:39:26 <mechanic41turk[m> monero.social is not a chat group, nor a channel.
19:39:45 <mechanic41turk[m> See: https://matrix.monero.social/
19:43:39 <mechanic41turk[m> on a different note: I wish elon shilled wownero, instead of doge.
19:43:52 <charuto> does anyone know what is the current channel topic on freenode?
19:47:00 <rehrar[m]> Feel free to join matrix.monero.social
19:48:17 <kinghat[m]> we could see how FOSDEM goes this weekend over matrix
19:56:06 <xmrscott[m]> charuto:  "Topic for #monero-community is: Community meeting January 23, 2021, 17 UTC."
19:56:27 <xmrscott[m]> So also dated to some degree :X