09:02:37 <midipoet> all you messaging experts. what are some of these suggestions like?
09:02:39 <midipoet> https://www.ngi.eu/news/2021/01/15/instant-messaging-the-ngi-way/
09:03:04 <midipoet> Richochet Refresh sounds interesting?
09:03:27 <midipoet> https://github.com/blueprint-freespeech/ricochet-refresh
09:15:46 <Mumuks[m]> midipoet: I have no experience with any of those two, but ricochet is p2p and those usually suffer from some unreability and high power consumption in mobile
09:20:57 <fluffypony> yeah I've found Matrix / Riot / Element to be the most reliable
09:21:01 <fluffypony> (of that list)
09:25:00 <mechanic41turk[m> matrix is great.
09:25:10 <mechanic41turk[m> federation is a big plus.
09:25:33 <mechanic41turk[m> hate it when people leave one centralized messaging service for another.
09:25:39 <mechanic41turk[m> it's all centralized.
09:45:23 <charolastra> with matrix, don't people just usually join the official matrix server?
09:47:22 <Mumuks[m]> <charolastra "with matrix, don't people just u"> There are a lot of open servers apart from matrix.org
09:47:50 <Mumuks[m]> (I am still using matrix.org because I'm planning to run my own server soon enough)
09:47:54 <charolastra> yes, but i've read that the matrix server has by far the majority of users
09:48:00 <charolastra> see :p
09:48:01 <Mumuks[m]> Yes
10:07:00 <mechanic41turk[m> <charolastra "with matrix, don't people just u"> I didn.t
10:11:08 <ggwpthxbai11> I think everyone here knows that most Monero exchange withdrawals and desposits are traceable (Breaking Monero - poisoned outputs). How does it feel to go out and lie to people that they are private and then earn less than holding BTC on your bag?
14:05:45 <xcztlaarsubw> I think everyone here knows that most Monero exchange withdrawals and desposits are traceable (Breaking Monero - poisoned outputs). How does it feel to go out and lie to people that they are private and then earn less than holding BTC on your bag?
19:22:48 <xmrscott[m]> <charolastra "with matrix, don't people just u"> Yes, the reference client, Riot/Element connected people to the official one so by nature of that a good number are there. There are FOSS projects out there w/ their own like KDE's with smaller amounts of users
19:24:03 <xmrscott[m]> Not quite as sure about non-FOSS instances, like if gaming communities, etc are opting to use Matrix to supplement or replace Discord servers, etc
19:24:57 <mechanic41turk[m> xmrscott: You can sign up to other homeservers using Riot/Element client.
19:25:10 <mechanic41turk[m> I am using Element on halogen.city server.
19:25:10 <xmrscott[m]> Yeah, I know, I've done so for KDE, etc. :)
19:25:15 <mechanic41turk[m> Ah, ok.
19:25:39 <xmrscott[m]> By default though, at least historically, it guided you to the 'official' one
19:26:00 <mechanic41turk[m> The diversity client implementation is important. But I think it is more important to have more than one homeservers available for registration, in order to prevent a single homeserver deleting/censoring people from using Matrix.
19:26:16 <mechanic41turk[m> <xmrscott[m] "By default though, at least hist"> It has a button to click, for specifying another homeserver now.
19:31:50 <xmrscott[m]> Yep, although it looks like Element still doesn't support the ability to quickly toggle through different accounts like the way Fedilab does w/ Mastodon/Pleroma
20:51:32 <sethsimmons> This seems like a nicely packaged way to spin up a new Matrix server: https://github.com/spantaleev/matrix-docker-ansible-deploy