00:06:34 btc should be cheap af 00:06:38 right this moment at least 00:06:46 should be able to get in next block for like 5 sat/byte 00:06:57 probably clear some 2 or 3 sat/b txs overnight 00:16:19 shum 09:50:32 Hey community, just a quick reminder: I posted an update about Mastering Monero. Feedbacks and critics are welcomed! https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/l396w7/serhack_updates_for_mastering_monero_we_need_your/ 09:50:32 [REDDIT] SerHack updates for Mastering Monero (we need your help!) (self.Monero) | 150 points (99.0%) | 30 comments | Posted by serhack | Created at 2021-01-23 - 09:35:07 10:11:07 jwinterm: I use wirex as a debit card app, and also to send p2p most of the time. They set the fees. 13:46:49 Why does the Saviour of NASA take a group achievement award and present it as a proof of individual glory? twitter.com/hyc_symas/status/1203709575226183683 16:01:18 If you wish to collaborate for the second edition of Mastering Monero, you're welcome to join the IRC channel #mastering-monero 16:05:10 midipoet: did you ever get the bitsa card in the end? 16:18:08 kayront: I did. But to be honest it's not really economically rational to use it. As it means purchasing XMR from an exchange then using that XMR to top up the card minus the 5-7% fee. 16:18:24 5-7%?? 16:19:09 Yes, to convert the XMR to euro, Bit Novo charge about that (they offer 5-7% less than spot price/Kraken price) 16:19:45 heh. I'd have to buy Euro with my NOK, exchange for XMR so that they can exchange it back to euro again for the card. 16:20:38 Inge- Is it not possible to transfer to Bisa without using an exchange, why is an exchange needed for people already owning XMR? 16:21:22 I guess Bit Novo and Bitsa are the same thing midipoet? 16:21:33 damn, 5-7% is steep af 16:21:56 Inge-: yeah, exactly. 16:22:31 msvb-lab: they are the exchange service provider for Bitsa, I suppose 16:23:18 msvb-lab: but yes, if you had large amounts of XMR that you wanted to "live on" in the free world, Bitsa is an option 16:23:36 though one wonders after how many topups the anal probe would come 16:24:05 I see midipoet, so when you choose 'top up with XMR' in the Bitsa application you are given a choice to use Bit Novo but no public address is offered right? 16:26:23 It provides the deposit address but it's held by Bit Novo. They do the exchange to Euro and the card balance is held in Euro by Bitsa. It's a custodial card/service. As far as I understand it, Bitsa some custody any cryptocurrency for you. Only Euro. 16:26:55 They do however allow you to top up using vouchers which can be bought across some parts of Europe. Which is a plus. 16:29:29 This sounds like the exchange Bit Novo is a requirement to use, but for people already with XMR they don't need to use EUR to top up a Bitsa account. I guess that's better than nothing? 16:30:13 It seems like there are two features who appeal to different groups of people, the one who owns XMR and wants to buy EUR things, and the other that wants a credit card without a bank account. 16:31:14 So if you top up using EUR vouchers or SEPA and buy EUR things there is no 5-7% loss and the second group wins? 16:31:44 Or the one with XMR but doesn't care about exchange price can win as well, maybe. 17:07:53 Yes. That explains it well msvb-lab 17:08:03 msvb-web7: ^ 17:51:02 !tune