03:21:48 <nioc> https://twitter.com/fluffypony/status/1334207718945681408
15:41:24 * lh1008[m] sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/NrSlJiZaawXpGcCMiOQOjZvU/message.txt >
17:25:17 <sgp_> lh1008[m]: why do we need another chat, I'm confused
18:33:15 <sethsimmons> .shrug
18:33:15 <monerobux> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
18:34:07 <sethsimmons> Seems there was some weird beef about RYO/FUK wanting back into the fold and someone getting banned idk
18:34:41 <sethsimmons> Honestly no idea how another moderated chat solves these apparent problems with an existing moderated chat
18:40:38 <nioc> just act appropriately and soon you will be welcomed
18:40:43 <nioc> ezpz
18:40:59 <nioc> it's not a mystery
19:03:42 <sethsimmons> I have had 0 issues to date with censorship or mods in Monero community channels
19:03:48 <sethsimmons> So I have no idea what the issue is
19:04:27 <sethsimmons> Unless its just someone trying to weasel their way back into the community while actively attacking Monero and attempting to defame it and release user details.
19:04:29 <sethsimmons> Which seems like a perfect use for moderation to kick that asshole out for good where possible.
19:06:10 <sethsimmons> Kicking out attackers and people who have shown for years that they are malicious towards everything Monero is a perfect use case for moderation in channels like this.
19:13:27 <sgp_> lh1008[m]: I need to try and walk through what happened out loud just to make sure I have these details correct
19:13:44 <sgp_> first, there were two Monero Telegram channels with similar use
19:14:03 <sgp_> the mod for one acted up, so everyone else left and abandoned the chat
19:14:24 <sgp_> the new group promised moderation by people that have been around forever and have a lot of experience
19:15:00 <sgp_> then as far as I can tell, another group was made out of protest for moderation?
19:15:23 <sgp_> and then this new group was attacked by spammers that the original moderators were there to protect against
19:15:45 <sgp_> and so now this new group is adding some more moderation?
19:15:59 <sgp_> and you are requesting money to moderate this new group?
19:16:41 <sgp_> why do all this instead of just closing the chat? there are already sensibly moderated discussions which are moderated for free
19:18:59 <sgp_> it just seems ironic to me that someone who (if I have the details right) left the main groups in protest of there being moderation
19:19:23 <sgp_> is now asking for money to moderate this new group?
19:28:00 <nioc> don't give that needmoney guy any ideas lol
20:40:47 <midipoet> did I miss some drama?
20:41:02 <midipoet> Why is there so much "people need paid" chat. Fuck me
20:41:18 <midipoet> It's not Wolf of Wall Street