06:50:58 <Inge-> vikrants: I think I saw someone touting Monero Classic on the Monero TG yesterday. Thought nothing of it at the time
10:22:47 <trepatudo> where can I get the community banlist for my node
10:23:19 <dEBRUYNE> trepatudo: https://gui.xmr.pm/files/block.txt
10:23:26 <trepatudo> thanks
12:05:52 <fluffypony> I put a thread out on the Twatters about it too
12:05:52 <fluffypony> https://twitter.com/fluffypony/status/1326130648491417602
12:25:55 <vikrants> nice
12:44:55 <mfoolb> fluffypony: good thread.
12:45:39 <fluffypony> tks
12:49:57 <mfoolb> fluffypony: tks to you.. this kind communications makes me think about finding a way to contribute..
15:24:53 <sgp_> fluffypony: good thread, was clear and calmed people down
15:26:59 <fluffypony> tks
17:08:22 * Lovera[m] sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/gDViCodkXNmvWkRIYZDaoVrC/message.txt >
17:09:11 <dEBRUYNE> +1, excellent thread
17:10:55 <PingMan747> Hello
17:10:58 <PingMan747> Thank you
17:15:45 <PingMan747> I have been trying to use the python script to produce a reproducible build using the instructions but for some reason the python script fails.
17:15:53 <PingMan747> This is what kind of an error i get https://pastebin.com/dstKT01T
17:16:17 <PingMan747> I followed the LXC instructions
17:17:03 <PingMan747> And I have a fresh Ubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver running in a VM (desktop version)
17:17:20 <scoobybejesus> i think you may need more RAM per thread
17:17:43 <PingMan747> I dedicated only 4GB ram to the entire VM
17:17:47 <PingMan747> Might need to up that or?
17:18:05 <scoobybejesus> well, if you've got time, try with -j 1
17:18:29 <PingMan747> I will give it a go
17:18:38 <PingMan747> Thank you
17:18:52 <scoobybejesus> fingers crossed that i'm right ;)
17:19:15 <PingMan747> Ill report back :D
17:19:26 <PingMan747> By the way anyone have an idea how to resend the nick registration link to email?
17:19:57 <PingMan747> Should I run the entire build thing again? With -j 1 it failed again in a few seconds with rebuild
17:23:31 <PingMan747> I gave it 10 gigs of RAM just incase and trying to let it run again
17:24:23 <scoobybejesus> The errors in the beginning suggest there may be more going on.  I've haven't done raw LXC, just docker.  Not sure if I can be more help
17:30:07 <PingMan747> I tried docker yesterday too but had it fail too
17:30:38 <PingMan747> LXC seems more complicated though, might have a fresh go with docker aswell
17:30:57 <PingMan747> LXC seems like something that requires a bit more understanding to figure out if something is wrong
17:32:29 <Lyza> can somebody give me voice in #monero and #monero-dev please
18:11:33 <sgp_> thoughts? https://youtu.be/Xm3Fd-aIvxQ
18:11:39 <sgp_> if it's good, then I'll share
18:26:08 <dEBRUYNE> sgp_: Watching now
18:26:18 <dEBRUYNE> As a side note, has anyone investigated the drawbacks of creating two 'stems'
18:26:22 <dEBRUYNE> i.e. two different stem paths
18:26:40 <sgp_> twice the exposure I guess
18:27:57 <sgp_> perhaps forming another stem is preferable to flood after the first failure?
18:32:16 <dEBRUYNE> Perhaps worthwhile yes
18:33:12 <dEBRUYNE> sgp_: According to selsta, if you disable d++, sending a tx over tor actually shows up instantly in the tx pool
18:33:20 <dEBRUYNE> With the recently added seednodes, it's also fairly straight forward
18:33:59 <sgp_> dEBRUYNE: I thought that was just when the delay was turned off
18:35:12 <dEBRUYNE> Yeah if the 'noise' part is turned off iirc
18:37:30 <dEBRUYNE> <sgp_> if it's good <= Has my stamp of approval :p
18:37:50 <fluffypony> https://decrypt.co/47798/malicious-nodes-attempt-sybil-attack-on-monero
18:37:52 <fluffypony> good article
18:38:05 <sethsimmons> Yeah surprisingly well written
18:38:49 <sgp_> dEBRUYNE: amazing :D
18:38:55 <sgp_> thank you so much for reviewing
18:40:26 <dEBRUYNE> np
18:43:06 <sgp_> fluffypony: awesome article yeah
18:47:28 <dEBRUYNE> I temporarily removed it from r/monero because we already have two threads up on the subject
18:47:33 <dEBRUYNE> Will ask them to repost it later this week
19:20:37 <sethsimmons> TIL I’m worth the follow on Twitter “if you can stand Monero content on your feed” 😂
19:20:39 <sethsimmons> https://twitter.com/ck_snarks/status/1326212754286448640?s=21
19:25:38 <sgp_> lol, we only tolerate you sethsimmons
19:25:45 <sgp_> <3
19:25:57 <sethsimmons> Thank you I think 😅
19:26:17 <sethsimmons> But hey, like 50 people who follow a hyper maximalist followed me (for now), so that’s some nice exposure outside the norm
19:37:03 <sgp_> Monero Meet this Saturday
19:44:38 <xmrmatterbridge> <nik> A random 1-2-3 stem would can also be investigated, like original broadcaster sends to 1-2-3 stem nodes and further  those stem nodes can rebroadcast to 1-2-3 stem nodes
22:55:04 <modul8[m]> cool sybil video. interesting that people still dont get privacy issues staring at them in the face, youtube comment "Thanks for the break down. Unfortunately I still can't grasp why.. Or what you can lose?"
22:58:16 <sethsimmons> Thats why building privacy tools needs to be done in a way to even give “that guy” good privacy guarantees 🙂
23:11:43 <rehrar> sethsimmons: how long you been here working on Monero? Just curious.
23:11:50 <rehrar> Don't have to answer if you don't want to obv
23:12:04 <sethsimmons> Idk if I’d say “working” for very long
23:12:10 <sethsimmons> Been around the community since mid 2018
23:12:16 <sethsimmons> But really dove in maybe a year ago?
23:12:19 <sethsimmons> Not sure honestly.
23:12:39 <rehrar> ok. Just wondering if I should be in awe at your resilience, or if you're just currently bright eyed and bushy tailed. :D
23:13:09 <sethsimmons> Heh, trying to remain resilient while struggling with the cynicism I see in so many others 🙂
23:13:20 <sethsimmons> Its a constant battle, but I love the rays of hope that shine through like the constant ATH in Monero transactions and the incredible technical progress along the way in Monero
23:13:47 <sethsimmons> I most definitely get pissed off at some of the idiotic maximalists, thats for sure.
23:16:11 <rehrar> give in to the cynicism. It helps the inevitable slip into nihilism so much smoother
23:17:04 <sethsimmons> https://imgflip.com/i/4lw6bj
23:17:09 <sethsimmons> 😂
23:26:41 <sarang> Is ATH suspected to be from non-output-spam txns?
23:27:33 <sethsimmons> There are good reasons to believe its organic
23:27:41 <sethsimmons> Such as Monero becoming the de-facto DNM currency
23:27:52 <sethsimmons> And massive increases in support tickets across the board for Monero
23:28:03 <nioc> non-output-spam txs?
23:28:08 <sethsimmons> And massive increases in comms around Monero in DNM forums like r/darknet and Dread
23:28:09 <sgp_> I also have evidence suggesting it's not just spam
23:28:49 <sgp_> There's no way to know for sure, but all adoption metrics I can find are indicating an increase
23:29:12 <needmoney90> If you guys had seen the difference in volume of support posts on /r/monero and /r/monerosupport before and after the DNM bust, you would be shocked :p
23:29:19 <sethsimmons> <sgp_ "There's no way to know for sure,"> Yeah, damn privacy makes it hard to keep track of who’s using it for what 😅
23:29:21 <needmoney90> Its night and friggin day
23:29:21 <sgp_> ikr
23:29:25 <sgp_> We need Chatwoot
23:29:41 <needmoney90> The support threads are becoming overwhelming and its only accelerating
23:29:47 <needmoney90> the adoption is 100% real
23:29:58 <dEBRUYNE> To be fair, part of it was caused by the malicious nodes
23:30:03 <dEBRUYNE> I expect a lot less threads now with .4 out
23:30:04 <nioc> if only we had a GUI
23:30:14 <sethsimmons> Thats definitely true
23:30:21 <sethsimmons> But even before that mess it was clear there were far more new users than normal
23:30:49 <sgp_> modul8[m]: thanks for the kind words!
23:31:18 <dEBRUYNE> Traffic stats on r/monero are up like 20/30% iirc
23:31:28 <dEBRUYNE> Of course that is partly caused by the price rise in $ terms
23:32:18 <sethsimmons> Great to hear :D
23:34:02 <modul8[m]> australia now has near 0 interest rates, investment/finance subs on reddit  still dont allow crypto talk. losers haha we ahead of the game
23:38:27 <needmoney90> dont worry, the 0% is just temporary until the economy gets back on its feet
23:38:37 <needmoney90> then we'll raise it to 0.1%
23:38:40 <needmoney90> dont want to spook the market, right?
23:40:06 <Lyza> but hey inflation is a pretty good deal for people who are in debt which is like... pretty much everyone nowadays
23:40:09 <sgp_> https://twitter.com/JEhrenhofer/status/1246203061325959170?s=20
23:40:28 <sgp_> Rates should have been hiked leading up to this
23:41:39 <Lyza> yeah, meanwhile Trump has been screaming at the us fed to keep them low for the last 4 years
23:54:57 <Franck[m]> <modul8[m] "australia now has near 0 interes"> I think you missed my comment 😉 https://www.reddit.com/r/AusFinance/comments/jrblv9/ing_savings_maximiser_reduced_to_135/gbt6jxy?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
23:54:59 <monerobux> [REDDIT] ING Savings maximiser reduced to 1.35% (https://i.redd.it/t1k0a9mwiby51.png) to r/AusFinance | 427 points (97.0%) | 217 comments | Posted by UnseatingCargo1 | Created at 2020-11-10 - 01:48:31
23:57:13 <modul8[m]> lol ok how do i launch a satellite :)