04:26:50 <sgp_> ArticMine: I see you did the Digital Cash Network interview?
04:27:26 <sgp_> Watching now but I probably won't finish it before I go to sleep; did it go okay?
04:28:00 <ArticMine> Yes it was interesting
04:28:18 <sgp_> Do you know who Joel is?
04:28:51 <ArticMine> I do. He is closely related to Dash
04:29:01 <sgp_> Okay, glad it went well
04:29:29 <ArticMine> It was to some extent a careful exercise in diplomacy
04:30:06 <sgp_> Haha I yell at Coin Center for comparing Monero to mixing, and you do :)
04:30:43 <ArticMine> Yeah the interview was recorded before your comments
04:31:01 <ArticMine> The key though is what is being mixed
04:31:28 <ArticMine> Signature rather than coins
04:31:33 <sgp_> I know but most people don't know the difference sadly
04:31:43 <sgp_> They hear mixer and think CoinJoin or central service
04:32:04 <sgp_> I'll watch the whole thing later, glad you enjoyed it
04:32:24 <ArticMine> It has a critical legal difference
04:36:22 <sgp_> Yup which is why I avoid the term :)
08:28:26 <john_r365> "The key though is what is being mixed. Signature rather than coins" >> Hmm, this might make a good (short-ish) post on Monero Outreach or similar. A nice explanation that's something to point to, when the subject gets brought up
10:46:11 <dixie__flatline[> sethsimmons: any news on fluffypony's talk video recording?
10:46:24 <dixie__flatline[> during the hcpp 2002
10:46:27 <dixie__flatline[>  * during the hcpp 2020
13:17:30 <john_r365> ArticMine - just heard your recent interview - found it very interesting, thanks! And kudos to Joel for being a good interviewer, not interrupting too much, and letting you talk. Was a bit sceptical at first, when I saw he was a Dash fan!
13:17:52 <azy> which one john_r365 ?
13:24:17 <john_r365> It was on podcast called "Digital Cash Network"
13:30:25 <rbrunner> https://anchor.fm/digitalcashnetwork, topmost interview
13:41:59 <azy> ty!
13:42:29 <azy> this guys says he's unbanked. i wonder how that works when it comes to housing etc
13:50:33 <dixie__flatline[> https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/tipxmr.live.html
13:50:38 <dixie__flatline[> tipxmr got funded!
13:51:06 <dixie__flatline[> congrats to alexanarcho
15:38:21 <nioc> so this is the only current one needing funding  https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/erciccione-website3.html
15:38:28 <nioc> at least for now :)
16:09:54 <Inge-> oh wow. Tone calls Monero a "high quality shitcoin" :D
16:11:01 <nioc> some good shit
16:28:08 <Inge-> I guess it is an endorsement. "Monero is good shit" -Tone Vays
16:28:29 <sech1> is it someone relevant?
16:28:32 <sech1> influencer?
16:38:02 <dEBRUYNE> Inge-: Link?
16:38:11 <dEBRUYNE> sech1: Bitcoin 'influencer' basically
17:04:45 <rot> Inge-: lol, for real? have a link to the specific timing and video?
17:05:22 <rot> Tone Vays is maximus btc trader man in town.
17:13:24 <Inge-> dEBRUYNE: yesterday's YouTube video - someone asks him if monero is a shitcoin, and he..  hesitates, then calls it a quality shitcoin (nite my above quote was not entirely verbatim, some creative license)
17:13:45 <Inge-> rot: didnt take the timestamp
17:14:08 * rot hits Inge- shoulder with a $.99 wrench
17:19:55 <ArticMine> The thing about Tone Vays is that he has been almost entirely right over time. Monero just happens to be one of the very rare exceptions
17:20:48 <ArticMine> Ethereum is another
18:21:22 <dixie__flatline[> ArticMine: being right in the sense of calling shitcoin scams?
18:31:51 <rot> in my early days i liked his cryptoscam podcast. after that i pretty much nuked his voice and presence off of the horizon. got bored.
18:32:08 <rot> shitcoin this, shitcoin that. corn to 3 trillion.
18:44:05 <dixie__flatline[> 3 trillion? Bro at least 300 gazillion
20:26:07 <ArticMine> <dixie__flatline[> ArticMine: being right in the sense of calling shitcoin scams? <--- Not just that. Even decent projects such as Litecoin have over time really underperformed Bitcoin
20:27:24 <ArticMine> But yes shitcoin scams are very much the majority
20:28:30 <ArticMine> It is like he is right like 99.9 % of the time Wrong 0.1% of the time. It just happens that Monero falls in the 0.1%
21:49:38 <Inge-> Tones trading system called out the bottom in xmrbtc pretty elegantly
21:51:33 <binaryFate> Isn't he advertising for xmrbtc trending towards 0?
22:05:46 <Inge-> He makes some bone-headed claims from time to time. One of them being that any given non-btc coin trends down to at most 3% of BTC
22:06:24 <Inge-> but his trading system was basically flashing "BOTTOM IMMINENT" at 0.0062