18:23:52 <xmrmatterbridge> <xmrhaelan> dEBRUYNE I received this message from them:
18:24:12 <xmrmatterbridge> <xmrhaelan> Well, as for a quick credibility investigation, you can check out our website (atomicwallet.io), read the reviews on Trustpilot (https://www.trustpilot.com/review/atomicwallet.io), check out the main TG channel @AtomicWallet. If you need something else, I'll be happy to answer any questions or contact you to our devs team.
18:24:48 <xmrmatterbridge> <xmrhaelan> They contacted me asking if I knew how to reach the admin of @monero on Twitter...
18:24:50 <needmoney90> atomic wallet is headed by the same people who head changelly afaik
18:25:16 <nioc> o_O
18:25:36 * sgp_ checks Atomic Wallet ToS
18:26:24 <needmoney90> yeah gladkos/Konstantin Gladkovich is the CEO of both
18:26:36 <needmoney90> just rechecked my info :)
18:28:47 <sgp_> weird they use Changelly and ChangeNOW exchanges then
18:37:51 <selsta> changenow is changelly too
18:38:25 <selsta> or at least was in the beginning
18:55:40 <needmoney90> Proof selsta?
18:55:50 <needmoney90> All I've heard points to the opposite
18:56:30 <selsta> I don't have proof right now but I can look in my IRC logs later
18:57:00 <selsta> maybe I misremember :)
18:58:33 <needmoney90> If you can provide any evidence that would be great, to the best of my knowledge they are two different entities.
19:07:22 <sgp_> I also think they're different afaict
19:10:08 <selsta> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4619534.0
19:10:08 <monerobux> [ ChangeNow.io (Evercode Lab) - Scam. Illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins). ] - bitcointalk.org
19:13:24 <selsta> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5034589.0
19:13:24 <monerobux> [ CHANGELLY - Illegal exchanger from RUSSIA with FAKE team ] - bitcointalk.org
19:16:29 <asy> ouch. doesn't cake wallet have a changenow integration?
19:16:55 <selsta> It’s not 100% proof but I would be really surprised if these are completely separate entities.
19:55:25 <sgp_> that ChangeNOW link imo is really weak evidence
19:56:34 <sgp_> worth a shot :p https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Cf9o01QW/atomicwallet
19:58:25 <selsta> I did not claim it is solid evidence :P But a lot of these entities are rather loosely connected from the outside.
20:08:05 <selsta> hmm I remember my "proof" now
20:09:46 <selsta> https://github.com/walletmonero/WalletMonero
20:10:12 <selsta> the CEO of it gave 5 stars to guarda https://www.trustpilot.com/reviews/59c925453c58580510bbeedf
20:10:16 <sgp_> needmoney90: I see Eric Benz as the CEO of Changelly
20:10:34 <selsta> they also gave 5 stars to freewallet on Android (don’t have proof screenshot for that anymore)
20:10:59 <selsta> yea bit bad to explain it without the proof from 2 years ago
20:11:19 <selsta> anyway guarda had connections with atomic wallet and changenow
20:11:51 <sgp_> ah, Konstantin Gladych is the co-founder of Changelly
20:13:39 <selsta> https://medium.com/@matty_30842/should-you-trust-wallet-monero-d0f647884ccc
20:13:43 <selsta> asy: ^^^ you wrote this
20:13:57 <selsta> it has the screenshot of the guarda guy giving 5 stars to freewallet
20:14:16 <asy> i did! but i've since been paid 35 billion bytecoin to tell you that that article is totally fake. changenow, changelly and atomicwallet are all very safe and very cool
20:14:30 <sech1> amen!
20:16:05 <sgp_> for the low price of 250 MM Bytecoin I'll agree with you
20:19:06 <sgp_> from someone at Atomic Wallet "Konstantin isn’t a part of the Changelly team now."
20:19:26 <sgp_> that can mean a lot of different things though
20:19:26 <selsta> "now", so they were in the past?
20:19:40 <sgp_> like, is an owner a part of the "team"?
21:11:08 <needmoney90> "He's just the co-founder of one and the CEO of another, thats practically just an employee. No relationship between the companies"
22:29:46 <sgp_> We're playing Codenames tomorrow night US time. Cards will be Monero-themed. DM me if you want to join! It will be a blast!