00:53:44 <kinghat[m]> which distro you using on the pinephone, xmrscott?
00:54:00 <xmrscott[m]> one moment, so so close
00:54:21 <xmrscott[m]> I gotta beat Bitcoin people and what not to first documented running cc node on a linux phone
01:08:13 <xmrscott[m]> kinghat: Manjaro w/ Plasma Mobile
01:55:33 <xmrscott[m]> https://twitter.com/kamenrannaa/status/1301337485121933312
01:59:56 <niocbrrrrrr> \o/
02:25:04 <sarang> Monthly research report: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/ilkwx9/august_monthly_report_from_sarang_noether/
02:25:04 <monerobux> [REDDIT] August monthly report from Sarang Noether (self.Monero) | 1 points (100.0%) | 1 comments | Posted by SarangNoether | Created at 2020-09-03 - 02:22:57
02:25:10 <sarang> good bot
02:52:51 <rojiro> on linux, what is the best GUI for interacting with github? On windows I used to use github desktop, which i guess isn't built for linux.. (i know i am lame for wanting a gui, blah blah) :)
03:06:45 <selsta> GUI for git or github?
03:08:18 <rojiro> well, github uses git, so i suppose as long as it allow me to interact with git repos, that would be all, preferably dark mode UI or capatible with gnome dark themeing
03:09:31 <selsta> Sublime has a git client https://www.sublimemerge.com
03:13:03 <rojiro> selsta: awesome, that might be a good place to start. thanks
03:14:06 <selsta> FWIW I have found using git from the command line easier than GUIs.
03:16:45 <rojiro> selsta: thanks. i probably will just move to that, but i didn really like the UI, diff features, and what not of the github desktop app... i'll have to see how i replace the various aspects of that. There is a promising thread on compiliing it for linux, so i might even give that a shot if i find some time.
03:17:01 <rojiro> *did really like the UI...
03:18:00 <jwinterm> rojiro, I always just bother the people on irc for help with git on cli
03:18:05 <jwinterm> tbh didn't even know there was a gui
03:20:35 <rojiro> jwinterm: well when i was first understanding the overall git flow of branches and PRs and what not i think the cli was just confusing, but i am pretty sure i could switch to cli now just fine. the gui was a nice set of training wheels, but I also liked the merge conflict resolution UI and what not, it's a shame it isn't supported on linux by the github team
03:21:18 <jwinterm> git reset --hard head
03:21:27 <jwinterm> git -f all the things
03:21:30 <rojiro> ;)
03:33:45 <kinghat[m]> https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1301251393832050688
04:07:42 <rojiro> xmrscott[m]: heading over to lineageos to answer my question. I think it would be great to run something like that on pinephone. being able to run apks without a translation layer seems like what we would want for OSS mobile
04:22:57 <xmrscott[m]> rojiro: LineageOS is not fully FOSS FWIW.
04:23:12 <xmrscott[m]> You can run apks on Linux phones via Anbox
04:23:48 <xmrscott[m]> However the current state of Anbox is pretty buggy and painful to get running, apps aren't aware of sensors (e.g. gyroscope)
04:26:11 <rojiro> xmrscott[m]: yeah i think anbox support is lousy. i imagine there are a lot of android apis that need to be replaced, i think there is a project that has started to do that, I'd love to get more into this space, because it's absolutely essential that we build an open alternative ecosystem for mobile computing
04:29:37 <xmrscott[m]> Yeah, having only used the PinePhone for 5 hours I get the impression any notable adoption is probably a year off
04:31:32 <xmrscott[m]> Manjaro is still using alpha images (and it certainly feels like an alpha), Arch ARM still doesn't have a Plasma Mobile image out yet and won't for another month or so because of bugs. pmOS w/ Phosh was very sluggish (upwards of 8 second response latency when opening apps like Contacts)
04:33:09 <xmrscott[m]> I'm hopefuly the notably better HW on the Librem5 DDR4 vs DD3, something like 4-5x the GPU shaders, higher clocked CPU will translate to a reasonably quicker to respond phone
04:34:04 <xmrscott[m]> Oh yeah, another fun bug because why not. My SO called me as a test and l left my phone on the bed rather than respond, went to watch TV, and when I went past the bedroom 1.5 hours later, Manjaro was still ringing w/ an active call
04:34:21 <xmrscott[m]> Just to give an idea of how much of an alpha state certain things are right now
04:36:28 <xmrscott[m]> But I'll take it over using Google spyware, that's for sure. One of the few nice things about being locked down is that pretty much all missing functionality is right on my desktop; not likely I'm driving around a lot needing navigation, etc
04:55:15 <rojiro> xmrscott[m]: yes lock downs have changes the need for mobile a lot actually
08:13:00 <midipoet> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/q1YK4dL5/100009000372_100152.jpg
08:14:43 <sech1> XMR is first on the list. Priorities!
08:16:12 <midipoet> I am sort of sad we are in the gang we are.
08:17:07 <sech1> Don't worry, we have CipherTrace on our side to list us again on exchanges!
08:21:20 <midipoet> Gotta love Dave
08:22:32 <midipoet> You know what would have been cool. If Kraken and Binance would have just had the calls to pull out of Australia all together
08:23:07 <midipoet> Especially if they were employing folk there/trading through entities there
08:28:09 <midipoet> *had the balls
09:25:48 <SerHack> https://imgur.com/a/s7cDCMF LOL
09:26:29 <sech1> Is Capitalizing Every Word Some Sort Of Fetish?
10:00:03 <midipoet> cheap marketing tricks 101
10:00:25 <midipoet> though i do think there is an existing AML compliance tool for Monero. it now means we are compliant
11:06:31 <Inge-> heh. I think some of the other exchanges ended up only removing xmr and one or two others, after determining that "ZEC, DASH, XVG, KMD" where not ... privacy coins
11:48:01 <thrmo> as much as I hate the term privacy coin, it was kind of insulting for those currencies to be considered one
11:48:25 <thrmo> so it's nice to have that rectified.
18:29:48 <kayabaNerve> Just finished implementing Monero atomic swaps :D Repository is https://github.com/MerosCrypto/asmr if anyone wants to check it out
18:46:15 -xmr-pr- [meta] SarangNoether opened issue #505: Research meeting: 9 September 2020 @ 17:00 UTC
18:46:15 -xmr-pr- > https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/505
19:46:14 <rehrar> sarang ajs-mob sgp_ needmoney90 any of you guys want to hop on a jitsi just to chill?
19:46:20 <rehrar> others are obviously invited
19:46:59 <kayabaNerve> Is jitsi just the go-to platform for the Monero community?
19:47:12 <sarang> Alas, I am working outdoors today; not conducive to video/voice chat
19:47:26 <rehrar> sarang: bro it's perfect
19:47:36 <rehrar> kayabaNerve: probably
19:47:48 <rehrar> the best mix of multi people, FOSS, and stuff
19:49:27 <kayabaNerve> Good to know
19:58:37 <xmrscott[m]> One of these days we'll open a virtual coffee shop on VRChat or something
20:01:11 <kayabaNerve> Unless you also offer virtual diet coke, I may hold off :P
20:01:35 <kayabaNerve> Jokes aside, it actually would be nice to get a virtual coffee shop. A place where you can be social just while you live.
20:01:44 <kayabaNerve> Eh. While you work, to be more specific.
20:08:08 <rehrar> xmrscott[m]: join me? :(
20:08:15 <rehrar> I'm working and I'm lonely
20:08:40 <dsc_> paste jitsi noob
20:08:47 * asy whips rehrar 
20:08:48 <asy> back to work!
20:09:06 <rehrar> https://meet.jit.si/meetinghall44
20:09:07 <sarang> kayabaNerve: do you have to pay $5 for mediocre coffee at your virtual coffee shop?
20:09:07 <rehrar> dsc_:
20:11:09 <kayabaNerve> sarang: Not if you don't drink coffee :P
20:11:28 <kayabaNerve> rehrar: Mind if I check what a Monero Jitsi is like?
20:11:30 <sarang> What kind of nutso statement is that
20:11:40 <rehrar> sure come in
20:11:43 <kayabaNerve> One that someone likes soda would say :P
20:11:54 <kayabaNerve> *who likes
20:12:04 <kayabaNerve> I want the coffee shop, not the coffeee
20:16:59 <midipoet> Talking of communities and virtual events, I was at an event hosted on the remo.co platform today. Worked really well
20:17:10 <rehrar> join us midipoet
20:20:10 <xmrscott[m]> I used an event by hopin which was also pretty nice. Joining shortly :)
20:45:36 <midipoet> rehrar: I was tempted, but am getting into bed..
20:45:56 <midipoet> I suppose I could join from bed
20:48:03 <rehrar> as you wish
20:48:28 <midipoet> do I have to put pants on?
20:55:53 <rehrar> of course not
21:01:23 <xmrmatterbridge> <cankerwort> Hey xmrscott have you tried out GrapheneOS as a FOSS mobile solution?
21:01:36 <xmrmatterbridge> <cankerwort> Restricted to Pixels, but a very good option
21:09:16 <xmrscott[m]> No, very wary of HW that's specifically developed by Google. There's bound to be some HW level spyware that phones home somehow
21:09:33 <sarang> lol, or even accidentially
21:09:50 <xmrscott[m]> But my very large tinfoil hat could cause bias
21:09:53 <sarang> Apparently one of their home speaker devices had a problem where they did constant recording due to some fabric they put on top...
21:10:10 <xmrscott[m]> Ah yes, I remember that
21:10:44 <xmrscott[m]> The only smart listening/speaker I would consider putting in my house would be the Mycroft MK2/MK3 whenever they ship
21:14:29 <xmrscott[m]> https://www.androidpolice.com/2017/10/10/google-nerfing-home-minis-mine-spied-everything-said-247/
21:17:08 <kayabaNerve> xmrscott[m]: I have no confidence those will ever ship
21:19:23 <xmrscott[m]> kayabaNerve: I mean it's certainly been in dev hell for the last 3 years or so. They seem to have direction again though given last month's update of receiving the 1st gen of protoboards for the current design
21:20:00 <xmrscott[m]> Maybe MKII will ship in a year, hopefully
21:20:01 <kayabaNerve> I may be sour because of my preorder :P
21:20:14 <kayabaNerve> BTC was 18k when I ordered it
21:20:16 <xmrscott[m]> I totally understand :)
21:20:58 <xmrscott[m]> I was more interested in the MKIII, and given the MKII looked liked it would reach it's funding goal, I figured I'd wait for the MKIII
21:21:16 <xmrscott[m]> Technically experimenting with MycroftAI though by means of Plasma Bigscreen
21:22:28 <xmrscott[m]> Very much would like the Mycroft MKII to ship though so I can actually recommend the dang thing to people who have Alexa/Siri in their home