20:11:51 Ugh, i have been setting up a new pseudonym recently (this one, rojiro), with plans to move my online identity to almost exclusively this, but it's been hurdle after hurdle. The digital survellience that has been setup on the internet is truly frightening. My twitter account was deactivated and i hadn't even posted anything yet. I also can't seem to activate a google voice number. 20:11:57 having an actual phone number purchased in meatspace seems to be a requirement to participate in the modern internet. crazy stuff 20:14:50 get a prepaid SIM card? 20:15:03 a lot of shops around here sell them for cash 20:15:16 usually you can get them in airport shops too 20:15:23 hyc: yes, i'll need to do that. Sort of exposes my city of residence though 20:16:46 how about looking for a VOIP provider who does SMS too? 20:17:00 also i presume that i'll need to actually activate the phone number using a cell tower, which pretty much gives up your physcial location at a specific time / place. 20:17:26 hyc: i have 5 voip numbers now in different countries they all do sms and each of them have been flagged in some way 20:18:03 don't use twitter then 20:18:16 i finally got a google account verified, but can't seem to get a google voice number, which would be pretty nice, since i think most everyone accepts that number now. 20:20:23 sech1: i want to participate in twitter. it's a great place to network with people, although it's probably not worth investing in since they can just cut me off at any moment 20:33:07 has anyone here built either telegram or signal from source and then used them successfully? 20:35:18 hyc: when i say the numbers are flagged, i mean that services don't accept the numbers or pretend to accept them (in the case of google) and then it just doesn't work. All in all it's been very eye openeing trying to come from tails with a bit of monero and setup an online identity without hitting clearnet 20:36:05 Did you access the account setups over tor? 20:36:27 Thats usually one of the bigger false positives for /r/monero, among other things 20:38:32 needmoney90: yes, perhaps that was my big mistake i did access both google and twitter via tor exit nodes, i perhaps will have to make a new twitter account through non-exit node IP 20:38:57 It is quite possible it wasnt the phone number that did it then 20:39:05 just my opinion though :) 20:39:20 needmoney90: no, that's good feedback actually. 20:40:02 fwiw twitter locks account even from clean IP addresses 20:40:06 accounts* 20:41:21 honestly it's sad the internet is almost unusable via Tor 20:41:32 due to Google Captcha 20:41:52 dsc_: it really is sad actually, i think that I got pretty bummed out this last week trying to work through all of this. 20:42:54 God knows how many times I have needed to identify busses, bicycles, house numbers, traffic lights 20:43:15 I never go outside, like I know how these things look like =D 20:43:27 haha 20:47:56 dsc_: and buttflare 20:48:14 I think the world is full tin-pot crazy 20:48:37 it's absolutely fucked