02:32:18 <niocbrrrrrr> to all artists/ designers, sarang is looking for "badass logo for Triptych" for a conference where it will be presented.  It is next generation stuff that can increase our ringsize significantly
02:32:21 <niocbrrrrrr> you can contact him on reddit or #monero-research_lab
02:32:46 <niocbrrrrrr> or pm
02:38:42 <niocbrrrrrr> correction #monero-research-lab
04:48:53 <Inge-> rehrar: ^   "next-gen ring signature sticker pack" :D
04:50:53 <niocbrrrrrr> https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/ido8q3/triptych_needs_a_logo/
04:58:19 <rehrar> Inge-: should I?
04:58:21 <rehrar> should I make one?
04:58:28 <rehrar> it wouldn't be fair :(
06:43:48 <Inge-> heh
10:49:06 <dixie__flatline[> who else is excited for the full wasabi vuln disclosure by the samourai wallet today?
11:17:21 <gingeropolous> i dunno if excited is the right term for the feels i have
11:34:04 <fahrradflucht[m]> Isn't it already disclosed? There is this pastebin at least... https://pastebin.com/raw/4tDh3ueW
11:41:22 <fluffypony> https://twitter.com/dukeleto/status/1296767854222639105
11:41:33 <fluffypony> don't know if anyone wants to add more context to that, beyond my reply
11:41:59 <selsta> lol
11:42:21 <dEBRUYNE> Everyone slightly related to Monero is part of the Monero Company^tm
11:42:27 <dEBRUYNE> It logically follows that Monero didn't pay out the bug bounty!
11:51:07 <Mumuks[m]> Fireice is like the gift that keeps on giving
12:02:32 <I3^RELATIVISM> what roomin the monero comunitie was using matterbridge to connect to keybas?
12:02:40 <I3^RELATIVISM> researh lab, right?
12:07:39 <dixie__flatline[> fahrradflucht: that was the nopara (developer of wasabi) leaking the email of warning that samourai sent to them.
12:08:05 <dixie__flatline[> a proper vulnerability disclosure (technical, and a non-technical one) will be released further today.
12:10:07 <fahrradflucht[m]> okay but the email already contains what they disclosed to the wasabi guys explaining the issue quite in detail
12:10:26 <sethsimmons> It doesnt have the technical detail, intentionally
12:10:34 <sethsimmons> Some of us want to see the technical implementation flaws :)
12:12:49 <fahrradflucht[m]> I thought there announcement they made didn't contain details intentionally - not the email, didn't expect much more then in the leaked email from the promised details. But let's see.
12:16:02 <fahrradflucht[m]> I guess seeing the sample spreadsheets would be nice definitely.
12:17:24 <fahrradflucht[m]> *their
12:17:54 <fahrradflucht[m]> lol no *the
12:32:57 <Inge-> ErCiccione[m]: lol @twitter.
12:47:51 <ErCiccione[m]> :P
13:10:27 <xmrscott[m]> lol, @ edgelords that think all bug bounty programs are broken
13:13:43 <sethsimmons> tfw it was a puzzle put on by Dash that caused this "outrage"
14:27:40 <kinghat[m]> "dsc_" (https://matrix.to/#/@freenode_dsc_:matrix.org) feather, nice 👌
14:34:28 <kinghat[m]> Dec 2019 or 2020?
14:53:40 <sethsimmons> Can't wait for it :D
16:46:02 <monerod[m]> <fluffypony "https://twitter.com/dukeleto/sta"> Ppl trying to get a hold of Monero in creative ways
17:02:28 <jwinterm> link don't work on actual irc monerod[m]
17:02:32 <jwinterm> it's cut off
17:02:42 <jwinterm> <monerod[m]> <fluffypony "https://twitter.com/dukeleto/sta"> Ppl trying to get a hold of Monero in creative ways
17:03:05 <fluffypony> jwinterm: https://twitter.com/dukeleto/status/1296767854222639105
17:03:44 <monerod[m]> guess it is the Matrix bot messing up the message
17:04:52 <jwinterm> thx
17:09:17 <ErCiccione[m]> The matrix option to quote a message is not natively supported by IRC. I would say the IRC got messed up because of that.
17:09:30 <monerod[m]> I see
17:10:15 <ErCiccione[m]> I would suggest to avoid quoting messages when the matrix room is relayed on IRC (like in this room's case)
17:10:30 <monerod[m]> Indeed! Will keep that in mind!
17:20:23 <kinghat[m]> https://www.wired.com/story/dicekeys-cryptography/
17:52:42 <rojiro> i need a phone number for twitter, they think i am bot since i was hitting them via tor exit node. Anyone have a preferred way to get a phone number these days online?
17:53:46 <hyc> googlevoice
17:53:51 <rojiro> preferrably something that is known to work with twitter? I am surprised by this given that twitter claims to try and help dissidents and activists, if you can use tor, well, then i suppose it's not very useful.
17:54:02 <rojiro> *can't use tor
17:55:19 <rojiro> hyc: okay, i'll get a google account (begrudingly).
18:03:34 <hyc> it's not horrible, if you never use it for anything else
18:04:24 <rojiro> hyc: well sadly google is now asking for a phone number, lol
18:06:30 <jwinterm> rojiro, no idea if this works https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-create-a-Twitter-account-without-phone-verification
18:07:44 <rojiro> jwinterm: you aren't going to believe this but quora is blocking my entry to that page lol
18:07:59 <hyc> LOL
18:08:01 <rojiro> i think i have a russian exit node right now. so that is likely my issue
18:08:26 <monerod[m]> hahah most likely ;D
18:08:27 <jwinterm> here is what they link to: https://einstapp.com/MD/tw/Create-Twitter-Account-Without-Phone-Verification.html
18:08:31 <jwinterm> seems kinda sketch but
18:08:33 <jwinterm> .shrug
18:08:34 <monerobux> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
18:08:38 <monerod[m]> Or north korean ;D
18:09:13 <jwinterm> I am trying to register asfdasdfasdf rn
18:10:15 <jwinterm> lol they "verify you are human" by making you take surveys
18:10:17 <jwinterm> exited
18:10:56 <rojiro> jwinterm: thanks, i already have a twitter account, it just got flagged while i was using it, it was only a few hours old, but maybe this russian exit node messed it up.
18:11:18 <rojiro> i guess i'll need to find a place that sells voip numbers
18:11:19 <oceanus[m]> You could give this a try https://felixmerchant.com/product/twitter-phone-number-verification/
18:11:34 <oceanus[m]> Dunno if legit but it's 2 bucks and they accept crypto
18:16:08 <rojiro> oceanus[m]: thanks, i'll give it a try
18:18:54 <rojiro> i looked into it more and they are like a one time thing you do via chat. i think i need to find a voip number that can get sms that i can control long term. very dissapointed in google for not allowing me to sign up without a phone.
18:21:02 <hyc> SMS is more of a pain. my VOIP providers don't forward SMSs
19:08:31 <xmrscott[m]> Indeed. I've bought a $20 fliphone + SIM that I reactivate on occasion for creating sock puppets for OSINT CTF's. Hopefully you can find something similar in your area if online fails. :X
19:24:49 <rojiro> yeah, i recently decide i was going to pick a project and contribute to some OSS, beyond my dsay job. it seemed cool to do so psuedo-anonymously. But it is proven a multi-day effort to just get setup! It's terrible what the internet has become. :(
19:26:36 <rojiro> next up is domain registeration. i'll have to do some research to find out which domain name suffix is the most agreeable to being registered by a nym. I know you can do whois guard...
19:26:49 <fluffypony> rojiro: Protonmail / Tutanota, and then create a Google account (you can do so without using them for email)
19:26:53 <fluffypony> and then you have a Google Voice number
19:26:55 <fluffypony> voila
19:27:58 <rojiro> i made a protonmail account and tried registering for google with my protonmail but google is asking for a phonenumber
19:30:20 <rojiro> fluffypony: i might have just gotten really unlucky, when i was signing up for google my exit node was in russia, i think :(
19:30:27 <rojiro> i should have checked before proceeding
19:34:14 <rojiro> i think we are underestimating the amount of mitigation that these companies have had to do. I think we are in a global deep state cyber war and I think it's much worse than we imagine
19:35:21 <rojiro> the internet was built in such a miserably non-private way.  :(
19:37:17 <xmrscott[m]> rojiro: FWIW there's always the fediverse which a few notable FOSS are on
19:37:48 <xmrscott[m]> I know Ubuntu has their own instance at ubuntu.social, there's fosstodon, Purism runs an instance as well, etc
19:38:44 <xmrscott[m]> Working on getting a monero themed one running, but it will probably take another two weeks before it's fully operational enough for people to create an account on
19:41:17 <rojiro> xmrscott[m]: cool. yeah decentralized social networking and content hosting will be excellent.
19:42:23 <dsc_> kinghat[m]: thanks
20:18:12 <dEBRUYNE> ErCiccione[m]: Nice work on the blog, perhaps we can add that miners do not have to upgrade their software?
20:18:21 <dEBRUYNE> we can explicitly add*
20:18:30 <kayront> rojiro: https://smsprivacy.org/
20:18:39 <kayront> expensive, but they receive SMS verification messages
20:18:44 <kayront> i've used it a few times
20:19:20 <kayront> as long as you only need to receive a sms once at the start, it's ok. otherwise stupidly expensive
21:00:02 <rojiro> kayront: this is a great option actually, i'll be doing this if the other thing doesn't work out. love that they have an onion site too! :)
21:10:03 <luigi1111w> any feedback on ccs 159 and 160?
22:20:43 <Snipa> Honestly, if you want a long-term voip that will forward SMS and such, I've had good luck w/ Twilio over the years.  Cheap and essentially pay-as-you-go.  I use them as a front-forwarder so I don't give out my cellphone number in general.
22:49:44 <rojiro> Snipa: thanks for recommendation. do they accept bitcoin or monero?
23:35:10 <Snipa> Unfortunately no.  Twilio is a very netural carrier all things considered.  We utilize them at work, and certainly, our user base is... opinionated.  Holding a number is ~1$/mo, and their per minute/per SMS rates are reasonable, particularly for a SMS forwarder or something of that nature.
23:38:04 <dixie__flatline[> rojiro: have you tried smsprivacy.org ?
23:42:39 <rojiro> kayront mentioned that one earlier. looks pricey but i'll be trying it later if i am unable to work with the other voip provider
23:42:49 <rojiro> dixie__flatline[: have you used this?