00:11:09 its all i have 00:12:07 We'll always have Paris 00:16:57 * kinghat[m] uploaded an image: image.png (154KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/SnbpUFfNZpknJLfBaagDKwiN > 03:15:59 woo. 03:16:43 nice to be connected with an actual irc client and not via matrix bridge 03:34:05 so about a week ago when I was lurking there was some desire expressed for accounting/lobbying help. 03:34:28 Whats the best way for me to do that? 03:44:22 how so? 04:11:40 christnofskimn: Roughly one week ago would primarily in reference to the LLC. As such sgp_ rehrar needmoney90 are the ones to best contact 04:11:59 thanks scott 04:17:11 christnofskimn: can you make the community meeting this Saturday? 04:18:41 yup! 04:28:06 Awesome :) 04:29:31 I've never been to a meeting on an IRC channel before. will be interesting. 04:30:08 purly from an orginisational standpoint. 04:30:44 like, do you use rules of order? what happens when somone makes a motion? 04:31:10 these are the kinds of questions that keep me up at night. 04:31:25 There's a predetermined structure that is in a github issue 04:31:34 if you want to add something to the minutes, you make a comment there 04:31:58 moderators (me, justin, diego) moderate based on those minutes, whoever is around 04:32:43 https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/497 04:32:45 There you go 04:34:04 Since its a "whoever is around, everyone promises to be there but things fall through" kind of thing, some parts of the schedule will be skipped when no representative is present. 04:34:25 Make sense christnofskimn? 04:41:56 it does actually 04:42:12 I was assuming lots of people would be there all talking over each other 04:44:55 Fortunately not, even in situations like after the servers were hacked and a bunch of irregulars were listening in or otherwise had questions to ask 04:45:14 Actually people sometimes need a little extra convincing to talk haha 04:49:19 Depends on the topic 04:51:59 The idea is that we have people who want to talk, and they can organize their space ahead of time. And then when the meeting comes, there's no talking over people, because its predetermined :) 04:52:02 It works quite well. 04:53:17 xmrscott: That meeting was one of the only ones in years that I've actually had to kick someone from the room for going off-minutes, actually 04:53:51 idk where the logs are, but that was an interesting meeting. Some people didn't understand there was a structure to it. 04:54:01 In the grand of scheme of things, not 'lots of people' talking over each other 04:54:07 I have the logs BTW 04:54:28 they are somewhere in my irccloud logs, I'd have to fish them out though. I'm sure we have them recorded somewhere. 04:54:34 I totally spaced pasted them in the issue and putting in a site post for better accessibility 04:54:57 One of the things to do after Mastodon/Pleroma is up and running reasonably well 04:55:10 There is something to be said for the outlier cases identifying where the norms are 04:55:38 *googles pleoma* 04:55:50 pleroma* 04:55:54 needmoney90: It's Mastodon, but a simple stack 04:56:04 *simpler 04:56:13 + a live chat feature 04:56:17 neat 04:57:04 However, from what I've read, still not as easy to sustain due to not having web admin dashboards like Mastodon does (still looking into which to spin) 04:58:05 The main thing though is that Mastodon is reasonably close to actually encrypted PM's (technically admins can see the text right now). I'm trying to find out where Pleroma is on this... it's the main deal breaker to me 04:58:38 Isn't that the usual case with everything that uses HTTPS? 04:58:47 Only those with certs can read the communications anyways 04:59:35 So server to browser is encrypted as is instance to instance. The PM text at rest is effectively plain text though 13:09:21 Best way to swap ETH to XMR ? suggestions? 13:09:46 Morphtoken for direct 13:09:57 Or can go ETH>BTC>XMR on lots of exchanges 13:10:08 Would like some privacy 13:10:12 Like TradeOgre for no KYC 13:10:25 Or could do Bisq for Eth>BTC>XMR 13:10:32 IIRC 13:10:54 👌 13:13:17 Morph looks pretty nice 13:13:28 I've liked it in the past, for sure 13:13:39 Sometimes exchange rates can be slightly worse than a normal exchange 13:13:46 Is there a stick fee they have? 13:13:46 But normally they're within range and worth it for ease of use 13:14:08 I see. thanks for the info brother 13:14:27 np! Glad to have more people moving into Monero 🙂 13:16:08 👊 Orwell was right, more and more are realizing it ^ 13:16:45 No kidding, Monero is such an awesome tool to help prevent the "boot stamping on a face" future 13:16:53 One of the few true tools we have at this point 13:17:27 Indeed. With the mesh networks coming we will be unstoppable 13:17:46 Can't wait for Locha and others to launch 13:17:51 Have been following them closely 13:18:33 Same :D gona set up a bunch of nodes covering my local area 13:20:42 Just waiting for XMR payment to be available and il make my orders 13:21:19 They take XMR if you email them: `If you want to pay with Monero, other cryptocurrency, or have a question you can send us an email. ` 13:21:36 Oh! missed that! Thanks! 13:24:56 What is the difference between Locha and other mesh networks in the past? 13:25:08 What frequencies do they want to use? 13:25:22 https://locha.io/ 13:25:52 `ISM band (915 MHz in America, 868 MHz EU),` 13:25:59 https://github.com/btcven/locha/blob/master/documentation/en/faqs.md#faq 13:26:24 I've bookmarked the webpage, I was looking for a quick explanation 13:26:56 Ah, sorry :) I'm not an expert in the radio side of things, so I'm not sure how it really compares, just have seen their demos and like the concept so far 13:27:02 Those are interesting frequencies, using 2.4Gh makes the range more challenging 13:27:07 Plus they've been very intentional with Monero support, which is always a plus. 13:27:24 I guess I'll have to check if those frequencies are available here 13:28:15 The thought is to have range not speed. Messaging and transactions do not require speed 13:29:19 monerod: I see, so it is not meant to be a full internet like system, just for small messages 13:29:43 That's actually an interesting way of getting people started into mesh networks 13:30:06 You can always deploy 2.4gh networks later once people have interest 13:30:50 yeah, That we will be able to be anywhere, without a internet connection but connected to the meshnetwork messaging and transacting money 13:31:08 I like the idea 13:31:38 It will will be quite revolutionary 13:31:48 And after a while the hardware should even fall in price more so it will be quite accesible 13:31:51 Yeah, its a much more approachable/feasible network than most IMO 13:32:04 Since you need far less users for it to be functional, as range is higher 13:32:15 Great for p2p networks :) 13:32:26 They should look into making matrix work on it too 13:32:29 Also open source . hardware and software. So anyone can start creating them as cheap as possible 13:33:05 And I'm dreaming here but some sort of small adaptor for the phone would make it really cool 13:33:16 Nice 13:34:14 Yeah ;D In the beginning we just have to have one of them in the backpocket or backpack, Just like a extra powerbank with superpowers :D 13:35:42 sethsimmons: do you have a Telegram? Got another request for an AMA 13:35:52 Yes, @sethsimmons 13:35:59 Hopefully this person doesn't quit 4 hours later lol 13:36:04 LMAO 13:36:08 "anotha one" 13:36:17 lol, droppin like flies 13:36:33 AMA regarding what ? if i may ask? :) 13:36:44 Monero, I assume :) 13:36:56 Ah cool :) Where will it be held? 13:37:42 some Indonesia community I have never heard of on Teegram 13:38:09 oh ok! nice! 13:39:55 Would be great to get Monero some more exposure in Indonesia, lots of need there IMO 13:40:05 And I have quite a few random connections to Indonesia so I'm excited for that 13:42:42 Yeah, but just having a low power connection in the mobile would be cool. No need for it to act as a mesh node since it is a battery device. If it catches on someone should look into it 13:43:34 Ah true. With enough nodes spread out only a low power receiver would do! 13:44:25 And or we want to send info also. But yeah ;D Sounds like it should be put in the pipliine 15:12:09 So weird seeing the daemon gain sentience 15:15:32 :D " I am the blockchain" 16:34:50 whats the "failed to find tx meta" error about (using 16.0.3 CLI)? 16:35:27 you can ignore it 16:35:42 ok. but what's it about? 16:35:53 afaik it’s a bug but harmless 16:36:19 selsta: who wants my meta. tell me now. 16:36:24 ;-) 16:37:07 monero hacked!!111 16:43:54 ah well 16:44:01 better luck next time, i suppose 16:55:16 https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/i8hbr8/monero_community_workgroup_is_preparing_for_the/ 16:55:16 [REDDIT] Monero Community Workgroup is preparing for the large growth ahead (self.Monero) | 1 points (100.0%) | 0 comments | Posted by SamsungGalaxyPlayer | Created at 2020-08-12 - 16:52:06 17:13:55 Interested to see what Reddit thinks about the ideas brought forward :) 17:18:00 Ooh! Finally a self hosted forum for Monero! <3 17:19:51 Yeah, Flarum should be good, I'm honestly hopeful we can migrate mostly off of Reddit to that, but that will be tricky for sure. 17:23:27 Time for all those who go on about Reddit to show their true colors I suppose 17:24:22 SerHack: we already had a forum, it just got killed with spam :'( 17:24:49 Wait really? 17:24:49 I never knew that lol 17:25:06 There was a pilot of Discourse as well about a year or so ago 17:26:03 sethsimmons: yeah, the thing the forum funding system was attached to :D. i don't remember it being particularly active outside the ffs though 17:26:25 TIl 17:26:29 Correct. It was just FFS and medications 17:26:40 Mainly the latter, sadly 17:26:40 asymprorically: yes, I remember that. Full of spam threads, there was no administration. 17:27:02 (Apart from FFS threads) 17:27:14 fund some of mooo's development time and get some viagra on the same site. sweet! 17:58:08 monero only forum means no fresh blood wandering in 17:59:15 the old forum did not have that much activity even b4 there was spam 17:59:45 granted the community is larger now but the dynamics are the same 18:00:00 there's no coin specific forum with any meaningful traction 18:00:01 SerHack: I need to put your sysadmin skills to work hahahaha 18:00:03 only one way to find out :) 18:00:10 bitcointalk doesn't count 18:00:24 as it's not coin specific and other reasons 18:00:58 fun fact: the name of the LLC was originally rCryptoCurrency LLC since I thought earlier this year about maybe making a general forum 18:01:19 that idea largely fell by the wayside 18:01:27 .rip in peace the rcryptocurrency forum 18:01:27 (X_X) ☜ (◉▂◉ ) we hardly knew ye 18:07:03 is `Monero Community Support LLC` the selected name now? 18:10:39 yes, officially. We wanted to make entirely sure that it provides support 18:12:15 I think worth noting that the forum I don't thinks is intended to be super popular, just a FOSS forum that is independent of Reddit for Monero related news, etc 18:12:41 xmrscott[m]: I, for one, when making the Revuo, would rather link to a forum post than a Reddit one. 18:12:47 Too much Reddit. I don't want to give them traffic. 18:13:04 Announcements can be made on the Flarum or something, and then Reddit can link to it. 18:13:45 I think multiple people gave feedback to not include "Monero Community" to avoid confusion :/ 18:14:36 Would it be great if it highly used? Sure. Over the years tho people have asked for something not subject to Reddit, and this gives those people that, however small their number may be 18:14:37 selsta: you don't think the 'Support' at the end avoids confusion that it's not the Monero Community, but rather an entity that supports the Monero Community? 18:19:18 It does not avoid confusion because it is not clear to an outsider that "Monero Community" is a workgroup. 18:19:34 Still obviously better than `Monero Community LLC` 18:48:28 hi I have a problem and need support from the monero community 18:48:53 I have already turned it off and on again 18:49:31 you can return within the next 14 days 18:49:35 it* 18:55:27 https://convos.chat/ asymprorically: yes, I remember that. Full of spam threads, there was no administration. 18:55:48 I'm not sure why we got rid of it, a forum without moderation is exactly what a lot of people are yelling for us to implement 18:55:55 🙄 18:56:57 lol too many viagra ads 18:57:35 Free speech, man 19:00:14 this 'absorption of assets' thing is really the most mind blowing to me 19:00:26 The biggest asset absorbed is the youtube, I guess. 19:01:28 Most of the 'absorbed assets' are justin saying 'I have a bunch of accounts and dont want to be the only controller' 19:01:33 theres like, nothing coming from me 19:01:56 or planned things. Like a Jitsi. 19:02:27 But if people don't want to use the MCW jitsi, they can spin up their own. And no, it wouldn't 'fracture' the community to have multiple jitsi's 19:02:30 Flarum's yes. I can see that. 19:02:44 That requires moderation 19:02:56 Which im open to someone spinning up their own and wanting to moderate it 19:03:15 needmoney90: dude, you're so right that people default to 'you could have done even more work for free, and that you didn't is honestly disgusting' 19:03:35 I'm learning to say no :/ 19:03:43 needmoney90: why didn't you put in the effort to start a non-profit needmoney90? 19:03:53 hey you're all welcome to hang out on the wownero forum. it needs filling up with viagra spam and memes 19:04:01 Why didn't you hire the specialist to ensure you comply with the non-profit stipulations? 19:04:14 needmoney90: did you put literally ANY effort into starting a coop? 19:04:36 [ ] Time 19:04:36 [ ] Money 19:04:36 [ ] All of the above 19:04:39 pick one 19:04:51 needmoney90: did you actually spend a single iota of time developing an alternative infrastructure for which payments and moderation can be done? 19:05:03 needmoney90: why does it burn when i pee? how do i cancel amazon prime? 19:05:17 needmoney90: no, don't throw this back at me and ask what I've done. I won't spin one up. Harumph. 19:05:23 Asymptotically: Sorry, I should have told you I tested positive before that night.. 19:07:00 rehrar: That comment about people expecting me to increase my workload/costs just hit controversial status \o/ 19:07:10 I havent had a controversial comment in ages 19:07:26 * needmoney90 pulls a theymos and sets the thread to sort by controversial 19:07:47 you aren't pulling a theymos until you spend £10,000,000 of community funds paying to develop a forum that will never happen :D 19:08:37 lmao 19:08:40 Unrelated, anyone want a new community forum? 19:08:41 42MLgzJpCcH2wUbRFdnCusG3zXfxsrHi9CRePzo3t3qJi1RHJ4UyMq8A3Duh2Yt2YsKeC3mDEYQDEbfN71PvD9MnFmQqGJN 19:08:45 taking donations 19:08:53 needLLC90 19:09:09 niocbrrrrrr: ooooooh that's good 19:09:10 !tip needmoney90 2 19:09:25 .seen tippero 19:09:25 niocbrrrrrr: I last saw tippero at 2019-12-02 - 00:41:11 in another channel. 19:09:34 2019? 19:09:38 big F in chat 19:09:54 I miss 2019 19:09:58 RIP tippero 19:10:33 I miss 2017 19:10:42 if we're going to reminisce, at least pick a good year 19:10:51 someone tipped my 0.1 XMR I think on Reddit back in 2015. never claimed it. RIP 19:11:11 I was just going back far enough to wen it was safe to hug pony 19:11:15 we can strongarm the dev sgp_ 19:11:26 its not like its lost 19:11:34 also needmoney90 conned me out of like $15 for the tracing challenge. f***ing exist scammers amirite 19:11:49 That's quite the claim. Evidence? 19:11:52 scammers all the way down 19:12:00 too bad I can't prove payment in Monero! /s 19:12:16 If monero is so private how come I know how much money im receiving 19:12:19 checkmate 19:12:21 lmao 19:14:55 matrix is having issues it seems 19:15:20 matrix sux 19:15:35 agree 19:16:09 :'( 19:16:29 Matrix is great and I've had 0 issues so far 19:16:35 Ok but fr, regarding proving payments via the wallet in Monero. 19:16:40 other than their client being a bit quirky 19:16:52 It's kinda stupid. It only works if the wallet is on the same computer, no? 19:17:02 Like if you take the wallet to a different computer, it won't work. 19:17:12 Eh gads no, 2017 was a terrible year, the year of the ICO and things like DentalCoin 19:17:28 sethsimmons: I wish they got an actual UX designer when they were redoing their client. 19:17:36 Yeah, this is one of the biggest quirks/issues with Monero FWIW 19:17:49 Seriously lol, its not amazing, but it works and is MUCH better/more portable than IRC IMO 19:17:56 As an overall chat product 19:18:27 Would there be privacy concerns with simplifying backup/restore of proof of spends? 19:20:13 IRCCloud is....meh 19:20:21 There are no good IRC solutions. 19:20:26 Why not allow backups that can be restored by using the wallet's own private key? 19:20:28 Exactlly why I switched to Matrix 19:20:29 And can't use Isabella stickers so it's a net fail. 19:20:31 Lets you share it anywhere you like 19:20:42 This should be native IMO 19:20:46 and portable between wallet implementations 19:20:59 Its VERY frustrating not being able to tell where/who I sent payments to across wallets 19:21:04 If we can make a portable file that *Requires* the private key to access 19:21:07 Since I switch between Cake and GUI quite frequently 19:21:11 I think that fixes most of the issues 19:21:17 sethsimmons: i want to run my own home server again. I did it for a month or so before quitting in rage. 19:21:22 it lets it be portable with as much risk as you usually have (private key exposure) 19:21:31 threat model is unchanged 19:21:37 IRC or Matrix? I haven't tried, but should... 19:21:38 share your wallet cache between devices? 19:21:42 Matrix 19:21:43 or does that now work? 19:21:46 not* 19:21:55 That doesn't work AFAIK 19:21:57 selsta: I'm thinking a formalized way of sharing the cache 19:22:04 even if its "possible" to do manually 19:22:05 sethsimmons: why not? 19:22:16 How can I keep them up to date between devices? 19:22:21 dropbox? 19:22:26 If I'm frequently switching? 19:22:33 That seems a PITA 19:22:39 And doesnt help with mobile/3rd party wallets 19:22:45 I was thinking we can add the potential for an endpoint in settings 19:22:48 Question, why does it require this cache? Is there no way to generate a cryptographic proof of spend just with the info stored on the blockchain? 19:23:12 So you can sync from anywhere and generate a proof? 19:23:37 Otherwise it's kind of a useless thing if it's just in the reference client and just when you're using the correct computer/wallet combo. 19:23:47 Honestly, at that point, we should remove the feature. 19:24:12 It's taking up space, and it's counting on literally nobody else making useful wallet implementations for it to be useful. 19:24:22 In other words, the feature necessitates a lack of ecosystem growth. 19:24:49 which feature? 19:24:53 Proving 19:25:15 Or some way to restore/bind cache to seed, but thats probably impossible 19:25:42 What if we just out everything on the blockchain? 19:25:50 Or even better. A new blockchain. MetaCash 19:25:58 I would assume thats either not possible or a privacy risk 19:26:01 All Monero metadata can be out there. 19:26:04 I cant imagine it hasn't been considered 19:26:07 Put 19:26:51 sethsimmons: Cant be impossible 19:27:04 Miners mine the minings to get MetaCash and spend using mint/spend technology. Doing so triggers a smart contract for blockchain 4.0 oracles that will decentralize the DeFi interfaces. 19:27:10 Not impossible, that is a bad word choice 19:27:17 But likely either very difficult or very costly 19:27:18 Using zero knowledge proofs, of course. 19:27:31 I dont think it would be costly. I can actually kinda see the UX 19:27:51 two new import options, from file, and sync (two-way) 19:28:07 you can hook it up to some endpoint like an external service 19:28:27 every [day, week, whatever is determined sufficient granularity for privacy] your black box is uploaded 19:28:34 or synced 19:28:43 you dont need to worry about the person on the other end being secure either 19:28:49 because its encrypted with the private key 19:29:32 the black box will only work with it's corresponding wallet. Some sort of three-way merge can be done if theres a merge conflict (that stuff is known algos though, so nbd) 19:31:29 That would be amazing 19:32:00 proposed in -dev 19:32:04 we'll see what they say 19:32:20 thanks 19:32:28 what about SpendProofV1? 19:32:39 Can we also work on adoption of OpenAlias? 19:33:05 Do I need to start a business that allows people to spin up an OpenAlias real quick for accepting? I know that's been tried a few times in the past, no? 19:33:07 I do like OA 19:33:07 https://monero.stackexchange.com/a/8131 19:33:10 Super nice 19:33:19 openalias uses the DNS system which is centralized, we really should be trying to migrate to IPv6 only 19:33:35 🙄 19:33:54 lmao 19:33:55 what does oa have to do with ipv6? shouldn't it still just werk? 19:34:00 ipv6 dont get me started 19:34:11 im trolling 19:34:13 ignore me 19:34:45 That has some of the features needed but lacks the full functionality of being able to restore wallet cache 19:34:59 Since you can't just see within the wallet the spend details 19:35:05 Selsta I don't want to prove I had access to a wallet that sent a tx. 19:35:13 You have to basically spam addresses etc to figure out where you sent it 19:35:13 I want a proof that a tx was sent and for how much and to who. 19:35:17 my isp just threw out their last ipv4 only equipment (because they stopped working, not because ipv4 only...) so maybe i'll be able to get globally routable addresses for my fridge and toaster soon :D 19:35:19 Much more valuable. 19:35:51 Yeah, exactly rehrar 19:35:56 What if we made Monero a ipv6 only technology? 19:36:07 Would be great to have full portability of that history across machines/wallets 19:36:48 sethsimmons: I'd rather it be removed from cache entirely. If we could find a way to make it so that a proof can be generated by what's on the blockchain that'd be epic. 19:36:54 Then any wallet could do it. 19:37:06 well yeah, just not sure thats feasible 19:37:59 just upload the proof to the community workgroup's owncloud server 19:38:11 lmao 19:38:51 I would only be interested in hosting that stuff if it was encrypted with the PK 19:39:13 but if so, I wouldn't have issues using our servers to host that stuff for people 19:39:37 as long as I can throw up my hands when the feds come knocking and have nothing to give them, I'm set 19:43:02 that's something lightwallets can implement IMO 19:43:08 afaik mymonero proposed something like this 19:45:08 but cli / gui getting some functionality to sync wallet cache with a server sounds unlikely 19:46:43 This seems like a pretty big need TBH, its one of the biggest points of friction compared to other blockchains like Bitcoin IMO 19:46:45 Or at least has been for me to date 19:47:13 It's really weird to restore a wallet and then have no idea where I sent things 19:47:24 It's very counter-intuitive to every other wallet/normal financial service 19:47:31 well bitcoin also doesn’t have privacy :P 19:47:40 Can we get someone to just volunteer to run the Flarum plz? 19:47:49 Its like if you logged into your bank/credit-card site and could only see amounts, not any other information about payments made. 19:47:58 Can we just get people to volunteer to run all this shit 19:48:00 That, to me, seems to be the only asset that is controversial in terms of splitting the community. 19:48:10 Touche :P But if we can fix this point of friction thats one less thing users need to deal with to use Monero 19:48:16 rehrar: Would we be moderating the flarum? 19:48:20 Or would it be new people 19:48:30 If its us moderating we're back at square one 19:48:37 As in, if new LLC makes it, and then people make their own in protest, it would double the amount of forums you need to go to to be fully informed. 19:48:41 If it could be supported by CCS I could run the Flarum 19:48:50 why not just do it for free 19:48:54 lol 19:48:59 I could depending on server costs 19:49:17 That was tongue in cheek 19:49:35 Yeah I know 19:49:44 Like Jitsi? No. Nextcloud. Nope. Doesn't split if someone starts their own. Sandstorm? Nope. 19:49:51 But I seriously could if costs weren't crazy, but not sure what to expect for load 19:49:57 Basically all of this asset absorption stuff is bullshit except for the forum idea. 19:50:23 what kind of rules would this forum have anyways 19:50:26 Monero Community Twitter? Nope. There's already several Monero Twitter related accounts. 19:50:40 A new person trying to moderate would be stepping into a minefield lol 19:51:00 so many political views 19:51:07 What else is claimed assets? 19:51:09 * sethsimmons sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/eiRVAbnrlADAMUHPnxuUXsxN/message.txt > 19:51:19 All of which are taboo for a lot of the die-hards in Monero 19:51:43 Obviously you three have been doing the vast majority of the work on the "assets and services" that will be brought under the LLC, so Idk why its such a big deal 19:52:00 And if people have a serious issue, they should bring up a counter-proposal that clearly states the way it will move us forward 19:52:02 heck, thunderosa openly stated that the existence of a 'code of conduct' (our rules) means they won't even read the rules to see if they're reasonable, and because of the existence of those rules, wont come into the channel 19:52:04 The legal entity only has control of easily replicated resources though. 19:52:13 How do you reason with someone who thinks rules shouldnt exist 19:52:16 It has legal responsibilities only to these resources. 19:52:35 You're proposing formalization and hierarchy to a bunch of anarchists :P 19:52:42 anarchy rules! 19:52:48 It was never going to go well with the vocal minority 19:53:08 Eh hierarchy is a bad word for this 19:53:21 Breaking Monero and other stuff is released CC. 19:53:32 but you get the point 19:53:35 Anyways, I gotta run 19:53:36 Best of luck dealing with the fallout my dudes 19:53:38 So anyone can take and upload to a federated dealio. 19:53:49 Ye. I'm just vocally going through the assets. 19:53:56 asymptotically: rules of anarchy 19:53:57 External processinh I guess. 19:54:13 Processing 19:54:15