02:20:57 <needmoney90> Okay, monero defcon puzzle is live :)
03:04:21 <sethsimmons> Will the meme competition be uploaded/shared?
03:51:47 <oceanus[m]> It will only be made available to platinum members of Monero Community Corp
10:26:46 <sech1> If I remember correctly, "the regulatory whitepaper" was promised to be announced "this week" and it was a week ago. Where is it?
10:38:55 <Inge-> sech1: the timeline for publication would "hopefully" be clarified this week iirc
10:39:35 <ErCiccione[m]> "this week" is the new soon(tm)
10:40:57 <sech1> this week ends in 2 days, so today or tomorrow?
10:59:58 <Inge-> You know it is good if it is Monero & McAfee https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1291866380606869511?s=19
11:04:58 <asymptotically> D:
13:42:13 <fluffypony> that's about as effective against C19 as McAfee Antivirus is against viruses
14:20:09 <sgp_> sethsimmons: it's at the end of the livestream. I'll upload separately eventually. Are you talking about the actual memes?
14:31:32 <sethsimmons> Ah, it was part of the DEFCON stream, didn’t realize.
14:31:33 <sethsimmons> I’ll watch there, but would also love a copy of the best memes if possible 😄
14:43:42 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] stonepiano#8626>: What is the meme competition? Can someone fill me in?
16:03:55 <fluffypony> it's a competition
16:03:56 <fluffypony> but for memes
16:11:21 <kinghat[m]> did he eat his dick or nah?
16:49:06 <sgp_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m_RJu7-EeU
16:49:06 <monerobux> [ Monero Defcon28 Village - Saturday Livestream - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
16:56:09 <xmrscott[m]> kinghat: He made some statement or rather saying "Well actually, I meant the end of 2020"
17:09:09 <kinghat[m]> this is what the stream looks like:
17:09:14 * kinghat[m] uploaded an image: image.png (1361KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/iDDMTLnqbzaLiwEUMLKjBGxV >
17:11:38 <JOhNKmuss> is defcon all online this year?
17:12:02 <JOhNKmuss> maybe quality needs to be less for all the streams or something
17:19:46 <sgp_> kinghat[m]: I'm not sure why Jitsi doesn't feel like sending good data without using the screen share feature
17:19:59 <sgp_> screen sharing seems fine
17:20:11 <sgp_> notice the UI elements look fine
17:21:45 <kinghat[m]> all of the other streams seemed fine just not his. same with yesterday.
17:22:55 <kinghat[m]> wait, is this a replay of yesterdays talk?
17:40:21 <xmrscott[m]> No
17:40:40 <xmrscott[m]> It's a re-talk, not just a replay of the recording
17:41:02 <xmrscott[m]> So should be better content wise based on feed back yesterday
17:58:47 <xmrscott[m]> epidemic_fancy: Probably the Outreach workgroup is what you'd want to connect with
17:59:06 <xmrscott[m]> https://www.monerooutreach.org/
18:01:24 <xmrscott[m]> Actually, this is probably a better page: https://www.monerooutreach.org/about.html
18:02:55 <xmrscott[m]> sgp_:  Do you know who manages the site? The telegram link is broken
18:05:25 <xmrscott[m]> Messaged u/MoneroOutreach, hopefully they can fix
18:06:01 <needmoney90> I do
18:06:04 <needmoney90> One sec
18:06:56 <needmoney90> T.me/monerooutreach
18:14:25 <sgp_> Thunderosa does
18:30:48 <sgp_> needmoney90: are you going to share your challenge on Reddit?
18:31:10 <needmoney90> That's too logical
18:31:12 <sgp_> Maybe we should have had a Discord channel for people working on it
18:31:27 <needmoney90> If you think we can get enough people to make that worth lol
18:31:49 <sgp_> idk if Defcon will add now
18:32:26 <sgp_> Well, I guess we have the office voice channel
18:32:32 <sgp_> Though is that for Sarang?
18:32:59 <sarang> ?
18:33:05 <sarang> Are we not using Jitsi?
18:33:24 <sgp_> sarang: can you describe your event to me? idk what it is
18:33:33 <sarang> Moderated office hour
18:33:41 <sarang> I thought you were moderating?
18:33:41 <sgp_> who is moderating?
18:33:53 <sgp_> oh lol
18:34:06 <sgp_> I don't recall signing up for this
18:34:19 <sarang> Shoot then I am not sure who is
18:34:26 <sarang> Can probably do without
18:34:31 <sarang> I'll figure it out
18:34:32 <sgp_> I can do it but I also have nothing prepared
18:34:50 <sarang> Idea was to take questions and discuss informally
18:34:55 <sgp_> okay
18:34:57 <sarang> No agenda
18:35:02 <sgp_> can't be super hard then
18:35:11 <sgp_> let me prompt for questions on YT
18:37:28 <sgp_> ajs-mob: after dr daniel kim is done, can you take over the livestream for a min? I want to check on my computer's performance
18:37:42 <ajs-mob> okay
18:38:28 <sarang> Is there a Jitsi room being used for this?
18:54:36 <ajs-mob> sgp_: ready for switch over
18:54:54 <sgp_> cool
18:55:07 <sgp_> I will keep the stream until he is done
19:00:15 <sgp_> ajs-mob: stopped on my end
19:01:22 <ajs-mob> streaming 1080p30 @ 2.5k
19:03:45 <sgp_> cursor is back but Jitsi is better
19:04:37 <sgp_> OBS is telling me I can't get the stream key... hmm
19:05:57 <sgp_> another 2 mins
19:07:55 <sgp_> ajs-mob: we are good, please stop streaming yourself and lmk when you do
19:08:26 <ajs-mob> stopping now
20:10:41 <sgp_> Remember that there is Trivia today at 4:30 PT :D
22:13:44 <needmoney90> https://www.twitch.tv/monerovillage
22:13:47 <needmoney90> rehrar talking atm
22:20:31 <sgp_> good talk
22:43:10 <sgp_> rehrar: nice talk!
22:43:37 <sgp_> random, but do you still have the mock-ups for how you wanted to redo the entire "community" portion of the site from a while back?
22:43:54 <sgp_> sarang had a cool idea of renaming the community tab to "communities"
22:44:26 <sarang> I think clarifying the nature of workgroups could be very helpful
22:44:33 <sgp_> indeed
22:44:46 <sgp_> we have a blog pot but really the whole community section should be redone
22:44:48 <sarang> Maybe thinking of "the Monero community" as "the Monero communities" is subtle but useful
22:44:58 <sgp_> agree
22:45:32 <sarang> It's like reddit... there is some overarching control relating to guidelines and rules, but subreddits are generally free to organize and run themselves within those boundaries
22:45:48 <sarang> At least that's a useful analogy to me
22:46:38 <sgp_> and all the other workgroups' collaboration with this one is voluntary, not required (can make this super clear)
22:46:46 <sarang> Don't like a subreddit? Make another one, and run it how you like
22:47:46 <sarang> Anyway, to be clear: I am not endorsing any particular view on the community LLC thing... I think making the nature of workgroups much more clear and precise is useful regardless of this particular issue
22:48:25 <sgp_> sure
22:48:59 <sarang> Having a Communities tab would mean that _someone_ needs to decide when particular communities get to be listed there
22:49:33 <sarang> How would r/Monero fit into this approach?
22:49:50 <sgp_> it will also have to deal with "layers"
22:50:01 <sarang> For a lot of people (me included!) it can feel a bit confusing about what is considered "official" (whatever that means) and what is up to workgroup moderators
22:50:08 <sgp_> for example, Monero Ecosystem has a bunch of stuff
22:51:15 <sarang> This came up earlier when someone asked if particular research had been "approved" (or some related language that I don't precisely recall) by MRL... and I didn't like the idea of some kind of official approval for that
22:51:42 <sarang> MRL is _a_ research workgroup, but NRL is another research workgroup too!
22:51:59 <sarang> And nobody should require "approval" to share research IMO
22:52:20 <sarang> Anyway, that's my three cents
22:52:39 <sarang> I'm sure there are problems with this approach that I haven't considered
23:01:24 <sgp_> trivia is in 30. be there or be square
23:01:30 <sgp_> trivia is only fun with many people
23:03:15 <needmoney90> sarang, /r/monero operates under democratic majority where abstention doesnt count for or against a particular 'thing'
23:03:26 <needmoney90> In general, it comes down to a 2/3 majority from the three active mods
23:04:00 <needmoney90> For most stuff
23:04:00 <sgp_> needmoney90 and sarang you better be on for trivia :)
23:04:06 <needmoney90> ree
23:05:54 <sarang> needmoney90: I meant in the context of workgroups, so it can be made clear how it's organized and run
23:06:04 <sgp_> ArticMine endogenic gingeropolous jtgrassie knaccc luigi1111 M5M400 scoobybejesus Snipa vtnerd wowario[m]
23:06:12 <sgp_> join trivia in 25
23:06:16 <sarang> sgp_: I need to finish some errands!
23:06:16 <sgp_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m_RJu7-EeU
23:06:17 <monerobux> [ Monero Defcon28 Village - Saturday Livestream - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
23:11:49 <sgp_> oh also sethsimmons
23:12:30 <sethsimmons> Sorry gonna miss all the festivities this weekend...
23:12:37 <sethsimmons> Bad timing 😢
23:30:09 <knaccc> props to idk from me
23:32:59 <endogenic> whoa trivia
23:33:05 <endogenic> dang it i'm out climbing w a friend
23:33:11 <endogenic> may be able to
23:33:23 <knaccc> how do we answer the trivia, in here? sgp_?
23:33:50 <knaccc> oh lol my youtube is delayed, never mind :)
23:43:15 <knaccc> nooooo
23:43:17 <knaccc> i misclicked!
23:43:26 <knaccc> undu undo!
23:44:12 <ArticMine> sorry I am also tied up