01:19:44 <rehrar> what is a stagenet remote node?
01:20:27 <selsta> stagenet.community.xmr.to
01:30:23 <rehrar> port?
01:30:56 <dsc_> 51.89.167.35:1337
01:33:55 <rehrar> thank you
01:33:56 <rehrar> you saved me
01:33:57 <rehrar> love you
01:33:57 <rehrar> bb
01:34:09 <rehrar> both dsc_ and selsta have stolen my heart and I have to choose :(
01:38:38 <kinghat[m]> read the draft of the deal. overall seems harmless. seems like it will complicate things more than make things simpler. you ppl are good ppl so i hope it all works out.
01:43:24 <dsc_> luvu2 rehrar
01:48:29 <rehrar> hey, I'd like multiple separate outputs for stagenet XMR plz.
01:48:30 <rehrar> 55R3GwLmZcD4eUVeGaQ1tjU7D8WE9G4UYK2eSGqEu1dsK1i284RrmQ1C1JFkSsxTkWiSasFyWVcYcP9LFmDou12hS3h97Jd
01:48:37 <rehrar> so anyone who can send me, that'd be great.
01:48:47 <rehrar> So I can maybe do several transactions at once without it getting locked.
01:50:19 <rehrar> xmr.to only lets me take out once. Then blocks me. Because they hate me.
01:57:55 <rehrar> lol, why is stagenet taking so long to find a block? Every time I send a transaction (especially if on main net) the next block takes twenty minutes. :D
02:03:35 <dsc_> rehrar: how much do you need?
02:09:17 <dsc_> ill send 100
02:12:26 <rehrar> Sure. Send me in smaller amounts for output purposes plz.
02:50:29 <rehrar> dsc_:
02:50:32 <rehrar> did you send?
02:50:40 <rehrar> I'm not even seeing the 10 that xmr.to gave
02:51:22 <rehrar> why is stagenet no worky? :(
02:51:26 <rehrar> I need this for tomorrow.
02:52:11 <sgp_> Is this for test transactions?
02:52:19 <rehrar> yes
02:52:25 <rehrar> I have a send/receive/prove workshop tomorrow
02:52:43 <sgp_> Last Defcon I wanted to use stagenet but there were too many issues so I handed out real XMR and luckily had the free outputs :/
02:53:27 <rehrar> I'm now seeing that stagenet is for scrubs.
03:01:50 <rehrar> good god
03:01:58 <rehrar> switched to stagenet on my main wallet
03:02:13 <rehrar> switching back to mainnet and connecting to my local daemon (server on my wifi) and it refuses to connect
03:02:19 <rehrar> curse this GUI
07:28:10 <binaryFate> rehrar: I sent you 10 from xmrto stagenet, you can break them down further yourself
07:44:47 <selsta> rehrar: did you restart your daemon?
07:45:48 <selsta> if you open a stagenet wallet it will start the daemon in stagenet mode, if you then open a mainnet wallet again it will not automatically restart the daemon
08:09:26 <Inge-> crypto is eeeasy
09:34:34 <msvb-lab> kinghat[m]: I'm not sure you found our Defcon Discord channels yet? The Defcon server is generally accessible at https://discord.gg/defcon/
09:35:04 <msvb-lab> You can find this information (our Twitch channel as well) on the Monero Village website (thanks to rehrar) at http://www.monerovillage.org/
12:53:17 <Inge-> m2049 not on irc?
13:06:31 <selsta> no
13:07:21 <Inge-> haven't heard from him in a good while
13:07:27 <Inge-> but new versions are coming out
15:48:25 <sgp_> sethsimmons M5M400 Isthmus xmrscott[m] dsc_ Snipa Sadly I was off by an hour, so the meme competition is one hour later today at 4pm PST, which is 23 UTC
15:48:47 <dsc_> meh 1AM kinda sucks
15:48:52 <dsc_> but ill see!
15:49:02 <sgp_> yeah sorry :/
15:49:09 <sgp_> hopefully you can make it!
17:11:14 <kinghat[m]> found it msvb-lab, ty!
17:11:44 <msvb-lab> You're welcome, Daniel is doing a very interesting speech right now.
17:11:56 <msvb-lab> So stop bothering me I want to watch Daniel ;)
17:16:39 <kinghat[m]> ya watching it
17:46:34 <hyc> hmmm. "longer chain" is not necessarily "chain with most hashpower" he just contradicted himself
17:59:40 <Mumuks[m]> hyc: longer chain is not necessarily the chain with more hashpower right now <- that is how I interpret it
19:03:05 <needmoney90> With the same timestamp and no really weird abuseable DAA, I believe two for chains at the same timestamp, the longer of the two has the most hashpower
19:03:17 <needmoney90> pretty sure thats invariant
19:05:24 <intj440> yeah fumbled the chain resolution explanation a bit, will fix
19:22:28 <Mumuks[m]> needmoney90: right now being the key
19:26:19 <needmoney90> If you're willing to abuse the timestamp field you could have a longer chain with low effort
19:26:23 <needmoney90> That's kinda cheating tho
19:32:03 <Mumuks[m]> needmoney90: no, that's not what I mean
19:33:02 <Mumuks[m]> If you look at all the period the chain has existed, obviously the longest chain has the biggest hashrate
19:33:46 <Mumuks[m]> What I am saying is that you can have a shorter chain that had more hash power in the last week or last month
19:34:05 <Mumuks[m]> That is the only way to understand the statement
19:34:19 <niocbrrrrrr> Largest cumulative hr
21:14:33 <kinghat[m]> next talk wen? sorry, i was afk.
21:20:11 <kinghat[m]> got the deets on the discord
22:00:33 <xmrscott[m]> First Twitter hack, now Reddit lol
22:00:35 <xmrscott[m]> https://www.zdnet.com/article/hackers-are-defacing-reddit-with-pro-trump-messages/
22:01:46 <xmrscott[m]> Can't wait till Flarum or something happens in addition to Mastodon/Pleroma
22:05:01 <sgp_> wow
22:05:22 <sgp_> for r/cc we require that all mods have 2FA to reduce the chance of stuff happening
22:08:33 <xmrscott[m]> (Sent a mod message to r/monero FWIW)
22:10:34 <needmoney90> I have 2fa with an explicitly offline device, even if my password wasn't unique
22:11:07 <asymptotically> reddit has a supermod problem, where there are a few people that are moderator of 100000 big subs
22:11:16 <sgp_> yeah
22:11:18 <needmoney90> makes it annoying when I travel, but thats the price of security
22:11:29 <xmrscott[m]> Yeah, I saw that on r/all a week or two ago
22:12:41 <needmoney90> I don't believe my account is a vector for anything but a $5 wrench attack
22:12:48 <needmoney90> or an excessive bribe
22:13:03 <xmrscott[m]> Found it: https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane/comments/gifi24/92_of_the_top_500_subs_are_controlled_by_the_same/
22:13:07 <monerobux> [REDDIT] 92 of the top 500 subs are controlled by the same 4 people. (https://i.redd.it/3iai2hk9ady41.png) to r/ThatsInsane | 13887 points (99.0%) | 564 comments | Posted by rootin-tootin_putin | Created at 2020-05-12 - 17:14:29
22:13:21 <dsc_> I have a great excuse why I can't participate in the meme competition
22:13:29 <sgp_> was removed
22:13:30 <dsc_> I don't actually have my desktop at home, just a macbook
22:13:37 <sgp_> dsc_: so? :)
22:14:00 <sgp_> you can use a browser and any photo editing app
22:14:02 <dsc_> Well for meme creation you need a serious graphic designer setup with 32" true color 99% sRGB IPS monitor
22:14:07 <sgp_> lmao
22:14:24 <dsc_> DPI 1.4 USB-C 60hz
22:14:36 <dsc_> QHD
22:14:42 <dsc_> sooo
22:14:43 <xmrscott[m]> Post title is self explanatory, but here's the archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20200703070640/https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane/comments/gifi24/92_of_the_top_500_subs_are_controlled_by_the_same/
22:14:46 <monerobux> [REDDIT] 92 of the top 500 subs are controlled by the same 4 people. (https://i.redd.it/3iai2hk9ady41.png) to r/ThatsInsane | 13888 points (99.0%) | 564 comments | Posted by rootin-tootin_putin | Created at 2020-05-12 - 17:14:29
22:15:01 <sgp_> ty
22:16:03 <needmoney90> dsc_ I want https://displaysolutions.samsung.com/monitor/detail/1644/C49G95T
22:16:14 <needmoney90> if monero pamps more I might get it as a late birthday present for myself :)
22:16:49 <needmoney90> that monitor is basically like, 'what if I had a bunch of cash to burn and wanted a monitor, but didnt want to have to choose between tradeoffs?'
22:17:31 <dsc_> needmoney90: I'm in the market for a monitor too
22:17:34 <dsc_> lets discuss monitors right now
22:17:52 <dsc_> Ah, you're lookig for a high refresh rate monitor .. i don't know anything about those
22:17:56 <dsc_> is that a VA panel?
22:18:19 <needmoney90> yep
22:18:47 <asymptotically> nobody needs more than 0.1 Hz
22:18:50 <asymptotically> e-ink gang
22:18:53 <dsc_> I'm an IPS maximalist
22:18:55 <needmoney90> If you want to buy a monitor at the moment and don't want to compromise on anything, thats the one lol
22:19:05 <dsc_> Yeah, looks nice
22:19:12 <dsc_> bit on the expensive side :P
22:19:26 <needmoney90> Ultrawide? Check. Sufficient curve for how close you sit to a monitor? Check. 240hz? Checckkkkk. Color range? Blacks? Its QLED you know its gorgeous.
22:19:42 <dsc_> blacks are always great on VA
22:19:48 <dsc_> s/blacks/contrast/
22:19:48 <monerobux> dsc_ meant to say: contrast are always great on VA
22:20:44 <dsc_> needmoney90: https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/benq-pd3220u-designvue-designer-monitor
22:20:45 <needmoney90> whats your issue with VA?
22:20:47 <dsc_> same prce range
22:20:51 <needmoney90> the general issue with VA is response time
22:20:56 <needmoney90> and thats...1ms for this monitor
22:21:06 <needmoney90> so thats kind of not an issue
22:21:09 <dsc_> you mean general issue with IPS is response time?
22:21:12 <dsc_> that's true
22:21:14 <needmoney90> No, for VA
22:21:17 <needmoney90> thats generally the tradeoff you get for VA
22:21:17 <dsc_> all fast panels are usually VA
22:21:19 <dsc_> or TN
22:21:24 <needmoney90> fast = hz
22:21:27 <needmoney90> refresh rate
22:21:28 <dsc_> i know
22:21:30 <needmoney90> response time is different
22:21:35 <dsc_> ah
22:21:42 <needmoney90> time from input -> display on monitor
22:21:46 <dsc_> are you comparing it to TN panels?
22:21:49 <dsc_> generally speaking?
22:21:52 <needmoney90> and IPS yes
22:22:01 <dsc_> IPS is slow as a dog usually
22:22:06 <dsc_> only since recently 144hz have come on the market
22:22:07 <needmoney90> VA generally lets you get higher refresh rates but sacrificing response time
22:22:14 <needmoney90> this one doesnt sacrifice response time :p
22:22:21 <needmoney90> (also VA best contrast of the bunch)
22:22:27 <needmoney90> it really seems like they pulled a rabbit out of a hat lol
22:22:30 <dsc_> yeah its a nicne monitor
22:22:35 <dsc_> but not my thing
22:22:38 <dsc_> https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/benq-pd3220u-designvue-designer-monitor
22:22:42 <dsc_> check that one out
22:22:43 <dsc_> its sexy
22:22:57 <dsc_> 1200 usd
22:22:59 <needmoney90> its pretty
22:23:08 <needmoney90> it says $700
22:23:10 <dsc_> its aimed at creative professionals
22:23:20 <dsc_> nah its actually 1200 and 1400usd in europe
22:23:37 <needmoney90> want me to buy from amazon and reship for a cut? :p
22:23:44 <dsc_> yes
22:23:47 <dsc_> will you? :P
22:23:56 <dsc_> actually that's a risk with customs
22:24:01 <needmoney90> is it? It's electronics
22:24:08 <needmoney90> am I not allowed to send someone a TV
22:24:12 <needmoney90> or monitor
22:24:19 <asymptotically> you can, but dsc has to pay €5000000 customs fee
22:24:26 <asymptotically> after they hold onto it for 3-5 business months
22:24:31 <dsc_> they can hijack it
22:24:34 <needmoney90> what if I declare it as broken
22:24:35 <dsc_> ransom
22:24:53 <dsc_> *casually sends a supposdedly broken monitor half way across the globe*
22:25:03 <asymptotically> you'll have to get a really big coat and take it on the plane with you on holiday
22:25:03 <needmoney90> I can open it up and remove a wire thats easily replaceable :p
22:25:08 <niocbrrrrrr> criminals here
22:25:13 <needmoney90> then it would actually be broken
22:25:21 <needmoney90> and I can send it to you for repairs
22:25:39 <dsc_> haha
22:25:56 <needmoney90> broken stuff has less customs costs right? :D
22:26:03 <needmoney90> its not lying if its actually broken
22:26:05 <needmoney90> they can check
22:26:11 <asymptotically> you have to write the value on the box
22:26:13 <asymptotically> £0.99 tv :D
22:26:18 <dsc_> in pounds???
22:26:22 <dsc_> :D
22:26:31 <needmoney90> it looks like an E
22:26:32 <dsc_> customs be like "was dis fake monie"
22:26:33 <needmoney90> its close enough
22:26:38 <asymptotically> all my aliexpress junk comes in dollars
22:26:54 <dsc_> anyway
22:27:00 <asymptotically> xiaomi phone comes in as "kitchen appliance $3"
22:27:02 <dsc_> such monitor you buy for the color representation
22:27:30 <dsc_> For example I develop large parts of the GUI on a Dell U2715H, and when I eventually got a macbook I saw that the background had color banding, since macbook has a 10bit display
22:27:44 <dsc_> or otherwise a better quality display
22:28:40 <dsc_> so for programming stuff I prefer a monitor that's good in displaying stuff rather than for gamig
22:32:01 <sgp_> M5M400 Isthmus xmrscott[m] dsc_ 20 min meme competition warning
22:32:36 <Isthmus> Woah, where did today go? Thanks for the ping
22:33:43 <sgp_> :)
23:00:34 <Isthmus> Ah where's the thing?
23:00:46 <Isthmus> oh yea
23:00:47 <Isthmus> nvm