00:08:33 <dsc_> does anyone know what cake wallet uses as backend for xmr trading to other coins?
00:08:36 <dsc_> or is that classified info (tm)
00:09:04 <charuto> xmr.to
00:09:07 <charuto> morphtoken
00:09:11 <charuto> and changenow
00:09:25 <dsc_> thanks
00:09:31 <charuto> o7
00:10:35 <charuto> i'm like 95% sure
00:10:53 <charuto> might want to see if anyone confirms it
00:10:54 <dsc_> no no, you already specified the services. No turning back now
00:11:17 <charuto> crap
00:11:31 <charuto> why didnt i say ALLEGEDLY
00:12:09 <dsc_> you're responsible now
00:13:11 <charuto> better get some data to back up my claims
00:13:13 <charuto> https://changenow.io/blog/cake-wallet-partnership
00:13:23 <charuto> https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/hr74jq/i_like_competition_when_shapeshift_and_evercoin/fy2xl1d/
00:39:43 <dsc_> thanks
09:36:00 <Inge-> xmrscott[m]: tmux + irssi is the future!
10:36:54 <decent-userbrrrr> RSSI, or “Received Signal Strength Indicator,” is a measurement of how well your device can hear a signal from an access point or router.
10:37:11 <decent-userbrrrr> nvm, I forgot the 'i'
10:38:17 <decent-userbrrrr> <Inge- "xmrscott: tmux + irssi is the fu"> No. IRC is insecure and shouldn't exist anymore.
10:38:28 <decent-userbrrrr> "But you're writing in public room anyways."
10:38:28 <decent-userbrrrr> ^This my kids is was we call a total retard.
10:38:46 <decent-userbrrrr>  * "But you're writing in public room anyways."
10:38:46 <decent-userbrrrr> ^This my kids is what we call a total retard.
11:32:25 <Inge-> irc is insecure ... but the other services linked to irc are still pushing data here?
12:27:48 <dsc_> getting mitm'd is the future
15:07:09 <sgp_> Meeting in 2 hours
15:10:08 <dixie__flatline[> sgp_: is it going to be in this chat room?
15:10:18 <sgp_> Yes
15:10:25 <dixie__flatline[> thanks
15:17:45 <niocbrrrrrr> there is also a meeting in -defcon at the same time
15:18:31 <dixie__flatline[> niocbrrrrrr: you mean monero-defcon, or?
15:18:40 <dixie__flatline[> is that being relayed to matrix?
15:20:05 <niocbrrrrrr> was announced in monero-defcon  I see a matrix person there
15:20:30 <dixie__flatline[> niocbrrrrrr: I am unable to see the matrix room address of monero-defcon
15:20:39 <dixie__flatline[> can that matrix person link it to me?
15:21:06 <niocbrrrrrr> xmrscott[m]: ^^^^^
15:27:24 <xmrscott[m]> "dixie__flatline" (https://matrix.to/#/@dixie__flatline:halogen.city): Are you using desktop client?
15:27:53 <dixie__flatline[> xmrscott: yes
15:28:05 <dixie__flatline[> I also have on the android
15:29:11 <xmrscott[m]> So within the desktop client, when you search for rooms change source from Matrix in dropdown to freenode
15:29:37 <dixie__flatline[> xmrscott: I haven't added freenode to my room sources. What is its URL?
15:29:44 <xmrscott[m]> Actually, apparently this.might work: "#freenode_#monero-defcon:matrix.org" (https://matrix.to/#/#freenode_#monero-defcon:matrix.org)
15:30:04 <xmrscott[m]> freenode is in there by default
15:30:44 <xmrscott[m]> But you would then type #monero-defcon and hit enter
15:31:29 <xmrscott[m]> (Just for future reference for any freenode based channels, although new Element client may have made things easier)
15:32:14 <xmrscott[m]> Has only been packaged for desktop for Debian ironically, not Arch yet TMK, at least as of 12 hours ago
15:32:50 <niocbrrrrrr> defcon starts 1 hr after community starts
15:33:19 <xmrscott[m]> Correct, 18UTC
15:33:59 <niocbrrrrrr> says 17UTC at top of page
15:37:25 <xmrscott[m]> https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/488
15:38:56 <sethsimmons> Ah, glad that got changed so it doesn’t conflict with community meeting
15:39:03 <sethsimmons> Don’t want to pull people from either
15:43:11 <xmrscott[m]> Yes, for future reference DC28 is pretty much always going to be 18UTC unless it conflicts with Coffee Chat
15:52:49 <sgp_> Coffee Chat isn't ever at 18 UTC so we should be good
16:30:38 -xmr-pr- [css-proposals] suyash67 opened pull request #156: Implementing New Range Proof Technique Bulletproofs+ in Monero
16:30:38 -xmr-pr- > https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/156
17:00:36 <sgp_> hello everyone, community meeting time!
17:00:40 <sgp_> https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/486
17:00:46 <sgp_> 0. Introduction
17:01:01 <sgp_> Community meetings are a time to share updated and receive feedback on projects
17:01:11 <sgp_> also a reason for needmoney90 to get up on Saturdays :p
17:01:27 <sgp_> 1. Greetings
17:01:34 * needmoney90 rubs his eyes blearily
17:01:52 <xmrscott[m]> Hola
17:02:02 <v1docq47[m]> hi
17:02:46 <ErCiccione[m]> Hi (i'm having connectivity issues. There might be some delay with my posts)
17:03:50 <sethsimmons> Hi all
17:03:51 <sgp_> hello everyone
17:03:54 <sethsimmons> Joining from Matrix now :)
17:04:04 <sethsimmons> This is “fort3hlulz” FYI
17:04:09 <sgp_> no [m] anymore?
17:04:27 <sethsimmons> Had some weird nick issues with Matrix that resolves when I changed it to the current nick
17:04:48 <sethsimmons> It normally defaults to adding a [m] AFAICT
17:04:56 <ErCiccione[m]> Yeah, welcome to matrix :P
17:05:08 <ErCiccione[m]> it used to, not sure if it still does
17:05:24 <charuto> it does, it's just a default though and can easily be changed
17:05:34 <sgp_> cool, TIL
17:05:37 <charuto> always annoyed me having [m] next to my name on freenode
17:05:57 <doktoro> do i have a letter next to my name?
17:06:00 <sgp_> okay, 2. community highlights
17:06:07 <ErCiccione[m]> 🙂 i use it to make people know if i'm writing from matrix or IRC
17:06:22 <sgp_> here's another plug for our website https://communityworkgroup.org
17:06:34 <needmoney90> Shameless shill
17:06:48 <needmoney90> I love the building block logo
17:06:56 <sgp_> I am giving a talk at the University of Zurich (livestream) on Monday morning
17:07:05 <ErCiccione[m]> yeah i't very nice
17:07:08 <sgp_> all about Monero, privacy threat modeling
17:07:23 <needmoney90> Anything worth tuning in for?
17:07:29 <needmoney90> You said morning
17:07:35 <dixie__flatline[> sgp_: very good. Where the livestream be published?
17:07:42 <sgp_> haha there will be a recording, so no reason to watch live
17:07:50 <sgp_> I'll upload to the MCW channel
17:07:55 <needmoney90> Cool
17:08:13 <dixie__flatline[> sgp_: is MCW a youtube channel?
17:08:27 <sgp_> https://youtube.com/c/monerocommunityworkgroup
17:08:28 <monerobux> [ Monero Community Workgroup - YouTube ] - youtube.com
17:08:34 <dixie__flatline[> OK
17:08:54 <sgp_> final highlight: the Defcon workgroup is busy planning, with a meeting in #monero-defcon after this meeting
17:09:07 <sgp_> Does anyone else have a community highlight?
17:09:38 <ErCiccione[m]> Today i posted this: https://gitlab.tails.boum.org/tails/tails/-/issues/17823
17:09:42 <ErCiccione[m]> waiting for an answer
17:09:48 <sgp_> besides sethsimmons's ChainTalkTV interview https://github.com/fort3hlulz/Miscellaneous-Monero/blob/master/Monero%20FAQ.pdf
17:09:55 <sethsimmons> Was just gonna mention that :)
17:10:11 <sethsimmons> Seemed to go well and we got an invite to a summit they’re hosting in September
17:10:14 <sethsimmons> Details TBD
17:10:17 <sgp_> ErCiccione[m]: awesome, keep us updated and let us know how we can assist if needed
17:10:24 <sethsimmons> For sure!
17:10:26 <sgp_> sethsimmons: nice
17:10:39 <ErCiccione[m]> Will do
17:10:56 <sgp_> oh yeah, rehrar also ranted about DeFi at one of those conferences haha
17:11:10 <sgp_> Monero community has been doing a good job getting exposure recently. Keep it up :)
17:11:26 <sethsimmons> Seems like there are more of us each week these days :)
17:11:41 <sgp_> 3. CCS updates
17:11:58 <sgp_> nothing in funding required anymore (ErCiccione[m] was fully-funded)
17:12:21 <sgp_> v1docq47: video creation / translations into russian (august 2020 - january 2021) https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/154
17:12:30 <ErCiccione[m]> Thanks everybody. Was funded super quickly :)
17:13:04 <sgp_> I asked for a kanban board for their previous proposal, and they are still using it, which I super appreciate https://trello.com/b/9DqTv1Zr/august-2020-january-2021
17:14:19 <v1docq47[m]> my previous board where I continue my work - https://trello.com/b/pkJOLiEx/february-july-2020
17:14:40 <ErCiccione[m]> I put a thumb up to v1docq47's proposal
17:14:43 <sgp_> those MoneroKon voiceover videos are pretty cool
17:14:52 <sgp_> I would not have thought to do that
17:15:49 <sgp_> we have this proposal posted only 49 minutes ago:
17:15:58 <sgp_> Implementing New Range Proof Technique Bulletproofs+ in Monero https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/156
17:16:22 <sgp_> I imagine this will mostly be an MRL discussion (ping sarang so he sees it)
17:16:44 <ErCiccione[m]> Yeah, would wait for them before discussing it
17:16:45 <needmoney90> Isthmus
17:16:48 <sethsimmons> Huh, really cool to see an external researcher propose to implement it themselves
17:16:56 <sethsimmons> But absolutely needs a lot of MRL input/oversight I would think
17:17:03 <needmoney90> Idk if that's even the direction MRL wants to go
17:17:14 <needmoney90> I think we have three different schemes up in the air atm
17:17:19 <sgp_> is this the first time someone else has offered to code up something that they researched?
17:17:31 <sethsimmons> The first I have seen.
17:17:37 <sgp_> yeah, bulletproofs+ are a contender but I think there are other options, ways of doing it, etc
17:17:56 <ErCiccione[m]> sgp_ Fireice :P
17:17:57 <sgp_> iirc we haven't determined we even want this yet
17:18:09 <needmoney90> Lol
17:18:34 <sgp_> anyway, too early to discuss during this meeting really, but I wanted to mention it to get it on everyone's radar
17:18:57 <netrik182[m]> I also wanted to share that I finished mastering monero translation yesterday
17:19:04 <needmoney90> Nice!
17:19:07 <ErCiccione[m]> nice
17:19:15 <netrik182[m]> it's been reviewed by nelsonrenan up to chap 5
17:19:32 <netrik182[m]> and I asked botoserelepe to look at it too
17:19:43 <netrik182[m]> link is here
17:19:44 <netrik182[m]> https://github.com/netrik182/monerobook/tree/pt-br-translation/chapters
17:19:44 <ErCiccione[m]> who is nelsonrenan? i don't recognize the nick
17:20:02 <netrik182[m]> he is only active on telegram
17:20:15 <netrik182[m]> but also worked some translations on weblate
17:20:21 <netrik182[m]> you may see his nickname there
17:20:31 <dEBRUYNE> sgp_: Should we posted that proposal to Reddit too in order to invoke extended discussion?
17:20:39 <ErCiccione[m]> ok, cool
17:20:41 <sgp_> dEBRUYNE: too premature imo
17:20:47 <ErCiccione[m]> agree
17:20:59 <sgp_> people don't have a good overview of options yet
17:21:36 <dEBRUYNE> OK
17:21:38 <sgp_> netrik182[m]: are you going to do a PR to monerobook/monerobook?
17:21:52 <needmoney90> That CCS proposal needs a costs statement
17:22:25 <sgp_> 450 XMR at the moment (~$30k)
17:22:30 * Isthmus got pinged
17:22:41 <sgp_> Isthmus: https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/156
17:23:12 <v1docq47[m]> sgp, Russian translation of ММ is waiting to be merged ;) (https://github.com/monerobook/monerobook/pull/81)
17:23:19 <sgp_> I think we can move on to the next CCS "pre-proposal"
17:23:24 <sgp_> v1docq47[m]: yup thanks :)
17:23:27 <sgp_> https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/486#issuecomment-660214208
17:23:35 <sgp_> by TheFuzzStone
17:23:37 <netrik182[m]> sgp_: yes, I will do it
17:24:27 <sgp_> in general, I agree with ErCiccione[m] that translating things for for-profit companies should be broken out if possible
17:24:55 <Isthmus> At first glance Bulletproofs+ looks interesting, and the proposal looks thoughtful.
17:24:59 <Isthmus> Would want input from -dev and -lab, but it has my interest
17:25:06 <Isthmus> No rpo
17:25:09 <Isthmus> s/rpo/repo
17:25:09 <monerobux> Isthmus meant to say: No repo
17:25:23 <Isthmus> But has more info here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/suyashbagad/
17:25:43 <Isthmus> Could we get Suyash on IRC perhaps?
17:25:56 <sethsimmons> Or Matrix ;)
17:26:01 <Isthmus> +1
17:26:25 <sgp_> I mentioned to TheFuzzStone that I want to see more initiatives/ideas in the proposal if possible. The main goal imo should be growing the Russian community, not translations (though that will be a part)
17:26:27 <sarang> I have "update BP to BP+" on my list already
17:26:39 <sarang> But this should not be the sole reason to decide on such a CCS
17:26:54 <sarang> BP+ has undergone no formal peer review afaik
17:27:43 <ErCiccione[m]> sarang: if it's on your list maybe might make sense to have somebody else taking care of it. You could focus on other stuff and we could attract other researchers at the same time
17:27:46 <jwinterm> I like fuzzstone and he seems pretty cheap but it almost reads like he is asking to be paid for things he has done in the past
17:28:31 <endogenic> whenever it's appropriate discuss, sup with this one? https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/145
17:29:07 <sgp_> endogenic: it's been so long I don't remmeber haha
17:29:12 <TheFuzzStone[m]> Hi all! :)
17:29:13 <endogenic> a month?
17:29:16 <sgp_> I would need to look at logs
17:29:25 <endogenic> oh i figured discussion would be on the the MR
17:29:31 <endogenic> the the the
17:29:34 <ErCiccione[m]> I like his work too, but i would like to see all the for-profit parts removed before re-evaluating it
17:29:35 <sgp_> May 19
17:30:22 <TheFuzzStone[m]> jwinterm: Can you be more specific please about what you mean? The things I've indicated don't exist at the moment.
17:31:05 <sgp_> TheFuzzStone[m]: maybe making a kanban would make explaining what you will work on easier :)
17:31:15 <endogenic> can we make a decision here on MR 145?
17:31:16 * sgp_ loves kanban boards
17:31:19 <endogenic> omg so do i
17:32:00 <TheFuzzStone[m]> ErCiccione: got ya. When I edit my proposal, where can I discuss it?
17:32:39 <sgp_> TheFuzzStone[m]: typically that's what the CCS repo is for
17:32:47 <ErCiccione[m]> ^
17:32:59 <niocbrrrrrr> https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/h4sh3d-atomic-swap-research.html
17:33:05 <TheFuzzStone[m]> sgp_: Ok, then I will make Trello or its FOSS-analog and remove the for-profit companies.
17:33:09 <niocbrrrrrr> already funded ^^^^
17:33:14 <endogenic> wut
17:33:19 <niocbrrrrrr> huh
17:33:21 <sethsimmons> yeah that was funded a while ago
17:33:22 <endogenic> thanks. that UI confused me
17:33:30 <sethsimmons> And has had multiple updates in MRL meetings
17:33:32 <niocbrrrrrr> meow
17:33:40 <endogenic> but it does say it's in WIP. :)
17:33:50 <endogenic> oh nooo the cats have taken over nioc's machine
17:33:57 <sethsimmons> Endogenic just look for merged on the bottom of the MR
17:34:02 <niocbrrrrrr> has been funded so now he is working on it
17:34:07 <ErCiccione[m]> WIP means it's funded and people are working on it
17:34:14 <sgp_> hmm, I'm struggling to find the discussion on 145
17:34:29 <endogenic> it was already funded tho
17:34:43 <niocbrrrrrr> was discussed here and reddittttt
17:34:44 <sgp_> niocbrrrrrr: ah thanks
17:34:46 <endogenic> was there some sort of disagreement or?
17:34:48 <sgp_> I missedthe merge
17:35:02 <sgp_> and didn't check on the CCS site
17:35:19 <sgp_> okay, any final CCS comments?
17:35:29 <niocbrrrrrr> you guy just made a senile person feel good
17:35:31 <niocbrrrrrr> thx
17:36:06 <sgp_> lol
17:36:32 <endogenic> nioc that's just the toxoplasmosis
17:36:39 <jwinterm> TheFuzzStone[m], kind of just seems like continuation of what you've been doing, but now do same thing but get paid
17:37:24 <jwinterm> which I am not saying you shouldn't be compensated
17:37:38 <endogenic> love the workgroup logo
17:37:41 <endogenic> clearly is fluffy in that illustration
17:37:52 <needmoney90> Isn't that how most of our stuff works tho, jw?
17:37:57 <jwinterm> I do agree that it's kind of weird to basically do work for third-party wallets that are maintained by companies
17:37:59 <jwinterm> needmoney90, yes
17:38:01 <TheFuzzStone[m]> jwinterm: Mostly yes, you're right. I'm gonna keep doing what I do, but I'm gonna spend more time with Monero. That's my plan.
17:38:06 <needmoney90> Prove you can do something -> get paid for it eventuallg
17:38:11 <needmoney90> Once you have a track record
17:38:17 <jwinterm> yea, fair enough
17:38:19 <needmoney90> Feels par for the course unless I'm missing something
17:38:21 <jwinterm> I'm just a miserly jerk
17:38:23 <jwinterm> :P
17:38:30 <needmoney90> :)
17:38:49 <endogenic> hey, any C++ or Rust devs here looking for a dope paid project?
17:38:58 <endogenic> sudden idea endogenic
17:39:11 <sethsimmons> Probably not the right channel or time for that question :P
17:39:21 <endogenic> but it's related to monero
17:39:29 <endogenic> time though... when is right time
17:39:29 <sgp_> let's save that for open ideas time
17:39:31 <endogenic> ok
17:39:33 <endogenic> gracias
17:39:33 <sgp_> 4. Workgroup report
17:39:48 <sgp_>  a. Daemon/CLI/GUI workgroup
17:39:51 <sgp_> selsta?
17:39:59 <sgp_> dev meeting tomorrow to discuss all this stuff
17:40:09 <sgp_> https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/485
17:40:31 <ErCiccione[m]> ^ it's an important one
17:40:37 <sgp_> yes, absolutely attend
17:40:49 <TheFuzzStone[m]> jwinterm: I'll remove from my proposal the third-party wallets.
17:41:08 <sgp_> we can move on to  b. Localization workgroup
17:41:17 <sethsimmons> Sgp_ should we tweet that from the MCW Twitter?
17:41:22 <sgp_> yeah
17:41:26 <sethsimmons> That should probably get broad attendance/visibility
17:41:31 <sgp_> I should have tweeted this meeting too but forgot
17:42:02 <sethsimmons> Yeah would be nice to tweet out all meetings :) Which I guess I can do now too haha
17:42:09 <sgp_> use #MoneroMeeting for consistency
17:42:36 <sethsimmons> Sounds good
17:43:10 <msvb-lab> What is MCW, Monero Community Workgroup?
17:43:15 <sethsimmons> Yes
17:43:49 <sgp_> ErCiccione[m]: any updates on the localization workgroup?
17:43:58 <ErCiccione[m]> Nothing new really. Outreach has some new documents to translate. Everything is here: https://github.com/monero-ecosystem/outreach-docs
17:44:11 <ErCiccione[m]> and of course: translate.getmonero.org
17:44:45 <ErCiccione[m]> It's up as usual waiting for translators :)
17:45:17 <ErCiccione[m]> That's it
17:45:31 <sgp_>  c. Website workgroup
17:46:29 <ErCiccione[m]> I posted an update on reddit few days ago:https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/hp78v2/getmoneroorg_updated_revamped_homepage_netlify/
17:47:21 <ErCiccione[m]> FYI my work on the website stopped for about ten days and started again last week. My CCS was adapted accordingly
17:47:27 <v1docq47[m]> ErCiccione[m], https://github.com/monero-ecosystem/outreach-docs/pull/211
17:47:54 <ErCiccione[m]> As usual i ask people to review pull requests.
17:48:03 <sgp_> cool cool
17:48:26 <sgp_> anyone from outreach here?
17:48:31 <sgp_> sarang want to give an update?
17:48:31 <ErCiccione[m]> v1docq47[m]: Yeah i saw that one, i'm waiting for lh1008's review before merging
17:49:30 <sgp_> We can go to 5. Open ideas time
17:50:34 <sgp_> *crickets*
17:50:44 <sethsimmons> Only thing I’d like to mention is if you’re on Twitter a helpful campaign (I think) that has seen good engagement is #DidYouKnowMonero
17:50:46 <sgp_> no one ever has any ideas :p
17:50:46 <endogenic> ey
17:50:49 <endogenic> no one indeed
17:51:03 <sethsimmons> Which I’ve been using to describe lesser known/core info about Monero as a project and a protocol.
17:51:08 <endogenic> yeah any talented C++/Rust devs looking for a remote Monero gig with high impact lmk
17:51:12 <sethsimmons> Would welcome anyone else on Twitter to jump in :)
17:51:14 <sgp_> sethsimmons: I've been kinda pessimistic about that hashtag, but looks like others like it
17:51:24 <sethsimmons> What don’t you like?
17:51:27 <sethsimmons> Always open to feedback
17:51:37 <xmrscott[m]> Do a GoFundMe for Twitter advertising, maybe get the coveted Monero icon emoji?
17:51:38 <sgp_> idk.... hard to explain
17:51:51 <endogenic> xmrscott[m]: twitter is the new coinbase
17:51:58 <endogenic> when atomic hashtags
17:52:03 <sethsimmons> <xmrscott[m] "Do a GoFundMe for Twitter advert"> I have no idea whats actually needed, Cake even offered to pay for it
17:52:12 <sgp_> anyone see this? lol https://twitter.com/MoneroMemes/status/1284176676692402177
17:52:14 <sethsimmons> But you must need some special contacts or something
17:52:21 <sethsimmons> So good lmao
17:52:26 <endogenic> sethsimmons: that's huge money
17:52:32 <xmrscott[m]> Allegedly 50k and contacting people on the Twitter advertising page
17:52:36 <sethsimmons> ~$50k
17:52:41 <endogenic> where does that kind of money come from
17:52:59 <sethsimmons> Not my business :)
17:53:07 <sgp_> I have a few accounts that have spent enough on Twitter ads to have a support rep, so maybe Vik can work through those
17:53:28 <sethsimmons> Would be cool to get honestly if people (or Vik) will fund it
17:53:29 <sgp_> if that is indeed how the process begins
17:53:31 <endogenic> sethsimmons: that's not the point though.. if there's 50k for a hashtag...
17:53:35 <endogenic> anyway
17:53:57 <endogenic> well, open ideas time
17:54:09 <endogenic> an investor approached me after seeing my Konferenco talk
17:54:27 <endogenic> anyone who wants to work on Monero let me know.
17:54:40 <endogenic> gotta bounce, .bbl
17:54:59 <ErCiccione[m]> it's grumpy time for me but i'm not a huge fan of cake on twitter. I recently unfollowed them becasue they were spamming my feed with super low quality stuff (which they put a like on or retweeted)
17:54:59 <sgp_> all right
17:55:14 <ErCiccione[m]> but yeah i get easily irritated :P
17:55:19 <sethsimmons> :P
17:55:26 <sgp_> "all right" wasn't directed at you lol
17:55:33 <sgp_> :)
17:55:45 <ErCiccione[m]> yeah i guessed :)
17:56:20 <sgp_> I suppose we can wrap up then to allow people time to get over to #monero-defcon. Go to the bathroom, make coffee, etc
17:56:34 <sethsimmons> Thanks for running, sgp_
17:56:37 <sgp_> 6. Confirm next meeting date/time
17:56:48 <sgp_> August 1, 17 UTC
17:57:35 <sgp_> Coffee Chat next week July 25, 17 UTC
17:57:56 <sgp_> 7. Conclusion
17:58:01 <sgp_> the community is doing great, keep it up!
17:58:07 <msvb-lab> Great meeting sgp_, thank you.
17:58:08 <sgp_> thanks for being here
17:58:38 <sethsimmons> Thankful for all the hard work each and every one of you put in!
17:58:51 <sethsimmons> Crazy that this project is community driven.
17:59:25 <sethsimmons> And that it works pretty darn well :)
17:59:33 <xmrscott[m]> Would anyone be interested in a monero Mastodon instance?
17:59:56 <sgp_> hmm, that could be good but also not very good
18:00:04 <sethsimmons> I just got on Matrix :’(
18:00:10 <sgp_> good because it would be great to communicate more securely or whatever
18:00:14 <xmrscott[m]> I know Twitter gets a lot of hate, I own monerocommunity . org, could launch it as a test
18:00:20 <sgp_> bad because we would be isolated from everyone else
18:00:25 <ErCiccione[m]> Ciao everybody, gotta go eat
18:00:36 <sgp_> xmrscott[m]: it's YOU that owns that domain? lmao
18:00:40 <msvb-lab> Monero Village at Defcon 28 (Safe Mode) is starting on #monero-defcon.
18:00:52 <sgp_> I had to settle on communityworkgroup.org
18:00:54 <xmrscott[m]> Yes, I've said it several times, even highlighted you before you created the calendar thing
18:01:07 <sgp_> it's probably my fault yeah
18:01:09 <xmrscott[m]> I can give it to you if you'd like
18:01:30 <netrik182[m]> Hi
18:01:38 <sgp_> let me think about it
18:01:47 <xmrscott[m]> But I'm serious about Mastodon
18:02:08 <sgp_> would only whitelisted users be able to set up an account or anyone?
18:02:13 <xmrscott[m]> We could federate w/ most of the other instances (bar Nazi ones or whatever, who knows about that though, 'free speech' is always going to be spikey)
18:02:25 <needmoney90> Thanks 4 modding justin
18:02:38 <sgp_> what are the most popular existing mastodon servers?
18:03:36 <xmrscott[m]> sgp_: However is deemed best
18:04:48 <Mumuks[m]> <xmrscott[m] "We could federate w/ most of the"> +1 for mastodon, and I agree about avoiding Nazis, communists, facists,...
18:05:19 <xmrscott[m]> Big ones are going to be mastodon.social maybe fosstodon.org
18:05:50 <sgp_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/EoYIfGZv/mastodon
18:06:43 <xmrscott[m]> Maybe mastodon.technology
18:07:22 <needmoney90> I do have a concern about the federation stuff
18:07:39 <needmoney90> That being, explicitly not allowing some federations means we're picking a political stance
18:07:58 <sgp_> I'm okay taking a political stance if it means the site is usable
18:08:08 <needmoney90> In the case of no nazis that's fairly uncontroversial, but it makes me question the line.
18:08:36 <niocbrrrrrr> the line is always the question
18:08:50 <needmoney90> Do we allow liberal servers?
18:09:01 <needmoney90> If we ban right/conservative ones...
18:09:03 <xmrscott[m]> Yeah, although one could argue that we just follow the policy set by mastodon (which allows us to be listed on the join/explore list: https://joinmastodon.org/covenant)
18:09:08 <sgp_> not the extreme liberal ones
18:09:41 <sgp_> that covenant is fair imo
18:12:55 <xmrscott[m]> Also, FWIW I own the @monero handles on mastodon.social and mastodon.technology
18:13:15 <xmrscott[m]> (Mainly because I was afraid of someone like FI or whatever claiming them when Mastodon first launched
18:13:16 <xmrscott[m]> )
18:13:59 <xmrscott[m]> Should people just want to utilize one of those for Monero presence rather than launch a Mastodon instance ourselves
18:19:06 <sgp_> can we auto-post the same content that's shared on Twitter?
18:19:15 <sgp_> that's the bare minimum of course
18:19:21 <Mumuks[m]> <needmoney90 "If we ban right/conservative one"> Just get away from authoritarian ones, left or right
18:19:36 <xmrscott[m]> sgp_: So that's part of the problem, that could be considered bot-like which is why I've avoided it in the past
18:19:50 <needmoney90> I wish it was that easy.
18:20:38 <xmrscott[m]> I haven't looked at it for a year, and part of why I'm tempted to launch our own instance (can use monerocommunity.org for distancing purposes or whatever from getmonero.org) so we can set our own policy
18:21:53 <xmrscott[m]> (bot-ing-ish things are generally frowned upon in most instances)
18:23:40 <jwinterm> what if you post to mastodon and mirror to twitter?
18:24:56 <xmrscott[m]> That would be acceptable, although I don't know offhand how the mirrorbot handles things that exceed Twitter char limits (toots can be like 500 char)
18:36:29 <xmrscott[m]> Happy to give who has access to Twitter account access to either mastodon.social or mastodon.technology account though to mirror onto Twitter
18:40:17 <xmrscott[m]> The positive side of the pandemic is I now have time to manually mirror Twitter to Mastodon I suppose now that I'm WFH until probably Feb at the earliest
19:43:13 <kinghat[m]> shouldnt you be able to run jitsi from element client now that its integrated and all?
19:44:44 <rdymac> endogenic: “19:51 <endogenic> yeah any talented C++/Rust devs looking for a remote Monero gig with high impact lmk” what’s the task and the payment?
19:45:06 <endogenic> let's chat
19:45:35 <endogenic> hmmm i need to set up another email. can you DM me your email or your CV?