15:53:36 <sgp_> Most people don't use subaddresses. Look at these replies https://twitter.com/CakewalletXMR/status/1250398625408192512?s=19
15:53:36 <monerobux> [ Cake Wallet (Stay Home) on Twitter: "Who else wants a tip in #XMR like @Bitcoin_Brain received today? Paste your Cake Wallet receive screen here and you might get lucky!" ] - twitter.com
15:55:31 <sgp_> Granted they are mostly people using the wallet for the first time, but it's still interesting to see
16:20:39 <needbrrrrrrr90> Should we prioritize their flow in the UI?
16:21:45 <sgp_> I partially think that disposable subaddresses (single-use) should be the default, and users need to manually create "multi-use" addresses. They're all multi-use but you get the point
17:32:43 <binaryFate> sgp_ I like that very much, maximizes privacy-preserving behavior with default easy UX
17:39:06 <midipoet> how "bad" for privacy is subaddress (8...) reuse? is it essentially the same vulnerability as main (4...) address reuse?
17:44:43 <sgp_> midipoet: ideally yeah
17:55:53 <xmrmatterbridge> <cankerwort> As in the UX could be that the user presses "Generate One Time Address", the wallet takes subaddress indexed at like 200. If the user selects "Generate Multi-Use Address" the user gets a sequential subaddress
17:56:12 <xmrmatterbridge> <cankerwort> That way they get infinite one time addresses and a reasonable amount of multi-use addresses
17:56:29 <xmrmatterbridge> <cankerwort> Well not infinite, I understand there is some limit
17:58:17 <sgp_> there's no reason not to start at 1 or whatever it starts at
17:58:57 <sgp_> we can use even/odd for that but that's a stab in the dark and assuming equal use
18:03:21 <xmrmatterbridge> <cankerwort> Even/odd makes more sense yeah. No artificial limitation that way.
18:10:17 <sgp_> even so that cuts efficiency up to ~50%. hopefully the disposable ones are used more by most
19:20:19 <midipoet> does the wallet keep a log of which address indexes it has already created?
19:22:59 <asymptotically> not sure about a log, but it does keep track. you get a new one after calling create_address if you've used it or not
19:36:17 <sgp_> midipoet: the wallet does, but on-chain (if you resorted from seed in another wallet) it would only show the latest used
20:46:48 <geonic> https://twitter.com/mgogel/status/1250096562023337984?s=20
20:46:49 <monerobux> [ Michael Gogel on Twitter: "Monero is what people think Bitcoin is." ] - twitter.com
20:47:04 <geonic> ^ third most-popular monero-related tweet ever
20:48:36 <geonic> after these two: https://twitter.com/Cointelegraph/status/1080238867721134080?s=20 & https://twitter.com/bcrypt/status/1197335723759718400?s=20
20:48:36 <monerobux> [ Cointelegraph on Twitter: "Fortnite online store starts accepting Monero as crypto option https://t.co/Je4muYTn4f" ] - twitter.com
20:48:40 <monerobux> [ yan on Twitter: "OMG someone actually discovered malware (on the official Monero website) because the attackers changed the download binary but didn't change the hashes posted on the website https://t ] - twitter.com
20:54:36 <jwinterm> is that fortnite one actually for reals?
20:55:49 <selsta> it was for the merch store
20:55:54 <selsta> but they removed it again lol
20:56:59 <sarang> IIRC the Fortnite team said it came from the payment processor and hadn't been otherwise approved by them, and they chose to remove it
20:57:30 <selsta> I think it was a bit more complicated
20:57:38 <sarang> orly
20:58:17 <selsta> a lot of outrage with other people spamming the Epic Games CEO on Twitter why their coin does not get added
20:58:26 <selsta> also crypto news sites claimed it is a partnership with Monero
20:58:35 <sarang> naturally
20:58:47 <sarang> I'm sure a lot of high-quality reporting there =p
20:59:29 <selsta> also most likely that someone accepted it without fully knowing what monero is in the first place
21:00:06 <jwinterm> ohyea it's all coming back to me now
21:00:43 <geonic> yep. it was part of project coral reef..
21:08:00 <needbrrrrrrr90> sgp_ discord update log:
21:08:01 <needbrrrrrrr90> > Last month, in response to COVID-19, we upped the Go Live viewer limit from 10 to 50 people. Many of you have been using Discord to keep in touch and continue your daily lives, and we want to make things a little less stressful for you. We’ll keep this limit change up while it’s most critically needed. Stay safe <3
21:08:15 <needbrrrrrrr90> Their streaming stuff is quite well done, especially multicast.
21:33:39 <sgp_> needbrrrrrrr90: indeed, it's reasonably high quality and super low latency