01:05:37 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Kayla#5718>: could be with usb storage using a dongle
01:10:01 <hyc> hard to call it a bitcoin fullnode phone if you need to add a dongle
01:22:32 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Kayla#5718>: how about a pruned blockchain, does it require the full blockchain data to allow incoming connections?
04:10:50 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Kayla#5718>: ooooooooh
04:10:52 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Kayla#5718>: "In March this year, the company announced its work on a new blockchain router, dubbed Exodus 5G Hub, which will enable users to run a full bitcoin node and relay transactions, removing the need for a third party. It too should be available for purchase in Q2 of 2020."
04:11:05 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Kayla#5718>: so many the ROUTER will have storage for full node
04:11:18 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Kayla#5718>: https://allyourfeeds.com/ai-iot/news/mining-monero-on-htc-exodus-1s-is-coming-in-3-months
04:12:00 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Kayla#5718>: most likely something got lost in translation there but routers often have decent storage capabilities on drives
08:38:20 <azy> https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/fyksbe/moneroversary_idea_monero_cypherpoker_tournament/
08:38:31 <azy> cool, now we just need to build a full poker site that uses monero
08:38:41 <azy> in a week
08:50:00 <Mumuks[m]> azy: someone with programming skills should have done that long ago. Someone did it for bitcoin cash and it is slowly picking up steam
08:50:41 <azy> yeah blockchain.poker. i havent used it. they support bitcoin too but people seem to favour bch
08:56:22 <dEBRUYNE> hyc: Pruned node maybe? Although I don't know how big that is
14:11:17 <sgp_> Reminder that there is a community meeting in about 3 hours. We will talk almost exclusively Moneroversary planning
14:22:39 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Kayla#5718>: :t_derp:
14:24:16 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Kayla#5718>: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/657967997419520010/698538914503458886/unknown.png
14:26:11 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Kayla#5718>: dEBRUYNE: thats wat i said lmao, but yeah, most likely the lost in translation thingy like just the 5G router with its own drive being able to be a full node for the phone and other devices on that network to mine on it
14:30:21 -xmr-pr- [meta] SamsungGalaxyPlayer opened issue #455: Community Workgroup Meeting: 11 April 2020 17:00 UTC
14:30:21 -xmr-pr- > https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/455
14:37:03 * xmrscott[m] uploaded an image: Screenshot_20200411-073436.jpg (62KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/zhmarbxGnJZxurNlUIeGIvEe >
14:37:09 <xmrscott[m]> FYI the community website use a little love on mobile.
14:43:05 <sgp_> xmrscott[m]: it probably doesn't play nice with Firefox Focus
14:43:27 <sgp_> long-term this site needs to move to github
15:03:37 <xmrscott[m]> Ah yeah, works fine in Chrome for better or worse
15:58:54 <sgp_> One hour
17:00:45 <sgp_> Meeting time everyone!
17:00:52 <sgp_> 0. Introduction
17:00:55 <sgp_> We would like to welcome everyone to this Monero Community Workgroup Meeting!
17:01:00 <sgp_> Link to agenda on GitHub: https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/455
17:01:03 <sgp_> Monero Community meetings are a discussion place for anything going on in the Monero Community, including other Monero workgroups. We use meetings to encourage the community to share ideas and provide support.
17:01:07 <sgp_> 1. Greetings
17:01:15 <geonic> morning!
17:01:35 <ajs_> hi
17:02:12 <rehrar> Hi guiz
17:02:27 <msvb-mob> Hello.
17:03:13 <sarang> hi
17:03:47 <hyc> hey
17:04:18 <sgp_> needbrrrrrrr90
17:04:22 <sgp_> ErCiccione[m]:
17:04:42 <sgp_> selsta
17:04:48 <sgp_> vtnerd
17:05:22 * needbrrrrrrr90 yawns
17:05:25 <kinghat[m]> o/
17:05:29 <sgp_> binaryFate ArticMine geonic Isthmus jtgrassie M5M400
17:05:36 <sgp_> xmrscott[m]
17:05:47 <sgp_> (trying to get a full house in here for the Monerversary planning later)
17:05:56 <sgp_> 2. Community highlights
17:06:02 <sgp_> See Monero weekly highlights at https://revuo-monero.com
17:06:06 <sgp_> Check out resources at https://communityworkgroup.org. We can use this page to more easily organize Monero Community Workgroup resources going forward. It also has a calendar you can subscribe to for meeting reminders.
17:06:15 <sgp_> Monero Means Money was released yesterday! Please consider renting this film to support indie theaters: https://moneromeans.money
17:06:21 <sgp_> Does anyone have community (non-workgroup) updates to share?
17:07:07 <rehrar> Revuo not released yet. Will release today.
17:07:53 <sgp_> We have a huge amount of info to get through for the Moneroversary, so in the interest of time, there's a small rule change.
17:08:04 <sgp_> Please comment if you have a workgroup report by messaging “Workgroup Update: [workgroup name]” any time before part 4 of the meeting, or else your section may be skipped.
17:08:26 <sgp_> 3. CCS updates
17:08:31 <sgp_> Funding required:
17:08:34 * sgp_ ErCiccione: 3 more months part time work on Getmonero.org (36.33/180 XMR) https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/erciccione-website1.html
17:08:50 <sgp_> I didn't mean to make that /me, oops
17:09:05 <sgp_> Ideas (to be discussed):
17:09:11 <sgp_> There is only one new idea, so I will recap to luigi1111 and rehrar about the status of the proposals we discussed two weeks ago. Please comment after if you have any further comments on these.
17:09:18 <sgp_> Mining outreach, Ministo (40 XMR) REJECT/ADJUST https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/124
17:09:26 <rehrar> A note on the CCS. As you can see nothing has been merged in a while, besides sarang. This is due to the recent volatility, and we will begin merging again soon.
17:09:26 <sgp_> [Monero Aligned] Proposal for 1M5 Integration as Proxy, Brian Taylor (150 XMR) REJECT/ADJUST https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/127
17:09:36 <sgp_> Norwegian translation of webplate + footers + nav. Menu, Chris Avis (6 XMR) MOVE TO FR https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/129
17:09:41 <sgp_> Monero Debian Package Repository for 2 years, Patrick Schleizer (60 XMR) MOVE TO FR https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/130
17:09:42 <rehrar> Anyone with an open CCS proposal is encouraged to go and update to current prices.
17:09:59 <sgp_> Any comments on these that is different than my summary?
17:10:53 * ErCiccione[m] mostly afk
17:10:54 <sgp_> Updated/new “Persian GUI translation” https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/136
17:11:08 <sgp_> I think there are some concerns about the contributor, and that we would feel more comfortable with them opening a CCS after making other contributions first. People were generally negative about their previous proposal
17:11:16 <needbrrrrrrr90> Updated means account deleted twice and reposted and has repeatedly spammed us about it on /r/Monero
17:11:46 <hyc> that'd earn a hard No from me
17:11:47 <needbrrrrrrr90> Idk what's going on with it, but strongly recommend against. I gave misgivings about his future interactions should he get accepted.
17:11:54 <rehrar> For an individual like this I would not recommend moving until there is volunteer work. No exceptions.
17:12:02 <needbrrrrrrr90> s/gave/have
17:12:02 <monerobux> needbrrrrrrr90 meant to say: Idk what's going on with it, but strongly recommend against. I have misgivings about his future interactions should he get accepted.
17:12:26 <sgp_> Any other opinions on this or other CCS items before we move on?
17:12:37 <hyc> speaks very poorly of reliability/trustworthiness
17:13:32 <rehrar> I have something to discuss that is....core team related. Where would this fit?
17:14:04 <sgp_> is it about CCS things? maybe this could be the Core Team workgorup report
17:14:30 <rehrar> Uh. Sure. Not a CCS.
17:14:46 <sgp_> okay
17:14:51 <sgp_> 4. Workgroup report
17:14:57 <sgp_> Monero Research Lab
17:14:59 <sgp_> sarang, go
17:15:03 <sarang> Sure
17:15:20 <sarang> I have some initial C++ code for Triptych, which is showing good results
17:15:50 <sarang> UkoeHB_ (who might not be here for this meeting) posted their major update to Zero to Monero on getmonero.org
17:16:21 <sgp_> I'm looking to publish a paperback version of that btw with the Mastering Monero team
17:16:25 <sarang> And there's still assorted work on CLSAG implementation
17:16:27 <sarang> neat
17:16:56 <sarang> As usual, weekly research meeting on Wednesday at 17:00 UTC for anyone interested
17:17:44 <selsta> I can give a short CLI / GUI update
17:17:55 <sgp_> sarang: anything else?
17:18:01 <sarang> Those are the major items
17:18:15 <sgp_> okay, we can move on to selsta
17:18:19 <sgp_> CLI / GUI
17:18:51 <selsta> okay, Dandelion is now reviewed, meaning that v0.15.1.0 is almost ready, only a few more merges left and then we can branch
17:19:05 <selsta> GUI is getting an auto updater: https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/pull/2819
17:19:29 <selsta> ok that’s it
17:19:58 <sgp_> thanks
17:20:04 <sgp_> Core Team
17:20:06 <sgp_> go rehrar
17:20:13 <rehrar> Ok. Two things from me.
17:21:01 <rehrar> 1. The GF transparency report is almost done. This one is taking a bit longer because we're trying to give account for the entirety of the time the GF has been alive. This is a one time thing and then we'll focus on quarters after that or something.
17:21:25 <needbrrrrrrr90> \o/
17:21:26 <rehrar> Pre-2019 will be just general accounting. Greater focus on 2019 in terms of what went where.
17:21:51 <rehrar> Trying to wrangle the memories of people involved for such things.
17:22:35 <rehrar> 2. I'd like to solicit feedback on the newly proposed MRL Fund. I'm not going to reveal what's been worked on by me in the background as to it's structure because I want to hear fresh and original ideas not tainted by mine.
17:23:22 <sgp_> Is there an official contact point for comments?
17:23:40 <rehrar> If the goal is to ensure a fund, separate from the CCS, that MRL researchers are able to apply and get consistent monthly funding from (at current market value as of that month), what are some requirements that you think the core team should put in place for these researchers in terms of communication, engagement, and other?
17:23:43 <rehrar> Me.
17:24:08 <sgp_> I strongly advise some other, clearly stated contact method shared on Reddit
17:24:14 <rehrar> But just if anything is on the top of your head that you'd like to see (or NOT see so as not to have unnecessary red tape or burden), please let me know.
17:24:29 <rehrar> Sgp this is not going to the general community. It's going to this meeting.
17:25:10 <sgp_> I mean I don't have time now to give all my thoughts here. We need to be planning for the Moneroversary
17:25:33 <rehrar> Ok. If that takes priority then that's that.
17:25:45 <rehrar> Anyone can send me a message with an idea if they have it.
17:26:37 <sgp_> Ok, I hope this is an initial feedback process and then you will collect feedback from the broader community later more formally/clearly
17:28:17 <sgp_> Given the silence I'm going to move on to the main topic of this meeting: Moneroversary planning
17:28:23 <sgp_> 5. Moneroversary
17:28:33 <sgp_> We need to discuss the events for the Moneroversary next Saturday. It will be 6 years since Monero was released! We need to celebrate!
17:28:50 <sgp_> https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/438
17:29:13 <hyc> ... also right around my birthday, coincidentally ;) I'll be doubly celebrating
17:29:28 <sgp_> cool cool
17:30:04 <sgp_> goals for this meeting is to get a rough sketch of activities, games, times, and participants
17:30:45 <sgp_> some event ideas are Coffee Chat, Happy Hour, puzzles, Monero spend activity, and a meme competition
17:31:14 <sgp_> but maybe it's first best to hear when people are available next Saturday
17:31:28 <sgp_> (please jump in and comment your availability or unavailability)
17:31:41 <hyc> Saturday looks open for me
17:32:22 <netrik182[m]> For me too
17:33:12 <sgp_> geonic ajs msvb-mob needbrrrrrrr90 ErCiccione[m] vtnerd binaryFate rehrar Isthmus jtgrassie M5M400 xmrscott[m] when are you free next Saturday?
17:33:20 <needbrrrrrrr90> Answer, yes
17:33:28 <sgp_> also sarang
17:33:29 <rehrar> I'll be licking bus handles at that time so it may be a no for me.
17:33:38 <needbrrrrrrr90> Dude let's make a meetup of it Diego
17:33:43 <geonic> same time
17:33:50 <rehrar> But fr, sure. I'm good all day.
17:34:11 <sarang> I should be available
17:34:18 <needbrrrrrrr90> I hope the IRC room is big enough that we can all stay 6' from each other
17:34:24 <ajs_> I'm free
17:35:00 <rehrar> I can hang in the VR room all day as well as take part in other things.
17:35:51 <sgp_> good, now we have some people. Please contact others outside of this meeting to remind them. I'll make a Reddit post later today
17:36:21 <sgp_> Thoughts on these events: Coffee Chat, VR Happy Hour, meme competition
17:36:24 <msvb-mob> Saturday normal UTC hours, like 10-20 for me.
17:36:37 <needbrrrrrrr90> Meme competition?
17:37:00 <sgp_> I think it would be cool to give people a meme template and 10 minutes to make the best Monero-related meme they can
17:37:22 <sgp_> 4 people competing in a round or so
17:37:25 <sarang> nice
17:37:56 <sgp_> basically Drawful (which we can also play) but meme related
17:38:05 <sarang> Drawful is super fun
17:38:41 <sgp_> I have Drawful and Jackbox 4
17:39:24 <rehrar> CCS to buy all the jackboxs
17:39:29 <sgp_> lol
17:39:35 <sgp_> Jackbox gets old no matter the version
17:39:48 <needbrrrrrrr90> I mean it's a party game
17:40:09 <sgp_> needbrrrrrrr90: can you test Secret Hitler and CAH to see if that would work with a livestream?
17:40:30 <needbrrrrrrr90> Sure let's do it today
17:41:05 <sgp_> are there any puzzles or community challenges we can do? people solve problems like they did at defcon, though they are short/easy
17:42:10 <sgp_> Is that mostly dependent on dsc_'s availability?
17:42:40 <sgp_> we did Kahoot trivia last year. I think we could do that again
17:43:26 <sgp_> we did a crossword last year https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqyU5IX4wTo
17:43:26 <monerobux> [ Monero Puzzle w/needmoney90 - 5th Moneroversary 2019 - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
17:44:22 <sgp_> Is there anything we should do on a more serious note? Dedicated Q&A?
17:45:52 <sgp_> I need your creative juices to be flowing people!
17:46:52 <sgp_> Else I'm just going to make a program and you're going to like it lol
17:49:00 <sgp_> okay, I will make and share a preliminary schedule today. I would like it to be effectively finalized by Monday so we can help promote the event
17:49:41 <sgp_> rehrar: should I reuse your last year's Moneroversary materials, or is a minor refresh needed?
17:51:05 <sgp_> I'm happy to reuse them since they are good
17:51:12 <rehrar> You tell me.
17:51:20 <sgp_> okay, I'll reuse them
17:51:20 <rehrar> If you want refresh, I can do it this week.
17:51:23 <rehrar> Ok.
17:51:25 <sarang> How will you be making the schedule? Is it collaborative?
17:51:45 <sgp_> sarang: I'm just going to put ideas on paper and then we can talk about how to change/reschedule
17:52:03 <sgp_> My guess is that people want something on paper to review
17:52:28 <sarang> roger
17:52:44 <sgp_> Thoughts on 15-30 minute themed Q&A sessions or update sessions?
17:52:53 <sarang> How might that work?
17:53:27 <sgp_> Basically have a few mins set aside to talk about a specific topic, eg: MRL, dev, compliance, adoption
17:53:52 <sarang> Moderated?
17:54:37 <sgp_> could be
17:54:55 <sgp_> that would probably be better
17:56:05 <sgp_> Final thoughts on the Moneroversary? Else I'll get working and wrap this meeting up
17:57:15 <sgp_> 6. Confirm next meeting date/time
17:57:18 <sgp_> The next community meeting will be in 2 weeks on 25 April at 17:00 UTC.
17:57:22 <sgp_> The Moneroversary is on Saturday April 18 https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/438
17:57:27 <sgp_> 7. Conclusion
17:57:46 <sgp_> Please remember rehrar if you have comments about the Core Team fund
17:57:57 <sgp_> sorry, MRL fund
17:57:58 <hyc> MRL fund
17:58:23 <sgp_> That’s all! Thanks for attending this Monero Community meeting, and we hope to see you on r/MoneroCommunity and #monero-community. Take care, STAY SAFE AND ISOLATED, and know that change starts with YOU.
17:58:48 <sarang> Be safe!
17:59:37 <geonic> Cheers!
18:00:17 <msvb-mob> Great meeting, thanks sgp.
18:00:54 <Osiris1> cheers!
18:01:00 <Osiris1> stay safe!
18:03:03 <sarang> sgp_: I like the idea of doing Q&A sessions, but I think moderation would be useful
19:26:33 <xmrscott[m]> sgp_: In theory like 9am-2pm PT, maybe 4pm-6pm
21:11:48 <vtnerd> probably anytime next saturday, although Im on USA east coast so normal waking hours for that zone will be easier
23:16:06 <sgp_> DRAFT Moneroversary schedule: https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/438#issuecomment-612532923
23:16:34 <sgp_> Please comment on what you think is missing, excessive, etc
23:16:54 <sgp_> I would like another person to host the Coffee Chat for variety if we choose to have one
23:21:03 <sarang> 15:30 MRL Q&A works for me