05:56:31 <Inge-> Any recommended alternative to goigle forms to do a survey ? (i.e. better privacy)
06:29:45 <oceanus[m]> Let me goygle that for you: https://alternativeto.net/software/google-consumer-surveys/
07:04:35 <Inge-> I guess I should be glad you didn't slap me with a lmgtfy link :P
07:05:13 <Inge-> But there was a better site with privacy-enhancing alternatives to common software, which I don't remember the name of.
07:08:21 <Inge-> this one looks promising https://www.limesurvey.org/
07:08:40 <Inge-> sgp_: any thoughts on Limesurvey or other alternatives for privacy-protecting surveys? ^
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08:35:24 <rottensox> Inge-: https://civs.cs.cornell.edu maybe?
10:35:52 <Inge-> thanks rotten
11:23:32 <ErCiccione> I'm updating the FAQs on getmonero. Any suggestions about new entries? Looking mostly for questions that get asked often, no things like "what does this word mean?", which will include all common questions like "What's a node?" "What's a daemon?" etc
11:24:20 <asymptotically> what about how much disk space does a node use? and you could mention pruning
11:24:26 <asymptotically> although it would have to be kept up to date :/
12:04:56 <ErCiccione[m]> asymptotically: I recently created a "pruning" moneropedia voice: https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/monero-site/-/merge_requests/1256 maybe we could have a generic "Why does the blockchain need so much space?" and mention pruning there
12:42:04 <netrik182[m]> ErCiccione[m]: why my wallet needs to be scanned everytime I open it?
12:42:51 <netrik182[m]> Not sure if it is already in there
12:43:23 <ErCiccione> it's not, but it's a good one. Thanks
13:04:39 <sgp_> Inge-: I just used the Cornell one
13:05:30 <sgp_> It's definitely more for voting type surveys though
16:49:24 <john_doe2[m]> Hello everyone, i am new to monero and crypto in general. I like monero for its privacy features however most stores accept only bitcoin or ethereum, is there an easy, quick and private way to pay using monero? Maybe some automatic conversion platform? Thanks in advance, i still know very little.
16:53:45 <sech1> yes, xmr.to
16:54:34 <john_doe2[m]> Ty i will check it out
17:26:30 <kinghat[m]> so dumb that telegram lets other people add you to chats
17:26:39 <kinghat[m]> really grinds my gears
17:31:02 <TrasherDK1> One for to top of the FAQ list "is there an easy, quick and private way to pay using monero? Maybe some automatic conversion platform?" That one is up daily.
17:32:28 <TrasherDK1> That one is, more often than not, followed by "What wallet should I use?"
17:39:20 <needbrrrrrrr90> Ugh, bridge spam
17:39:37 <needbrrrrrrr90> You can turn it off but it's on by default kinghat
17:44:42 <kinghat[m]> ah damn i didnt know that was a thing. tyvm
18:21:10 <needbrrrrrrr90> kinghat also make sure you turn off the setting that lets people with your phone number saved in their contacts list to autoassociate it with your name
18:21:31 <needbrrrrrrr90> there was a thing going around that snagged telephone numbers by autoassociating them and then recording the usernames
18:21:46 <needbrrrrrrr90> its bs that that setting needs to be manually toggled, but it is what it is
19:07:57 <sgp_> thanks needbrrrrrrr90, I updated my settings
19:08:06 <sgp_> I just assume Telegram's defaults are terrible
19:09:00 <asymptotically> why use telegram if it's so bad?
19:09:23 <needbrrrrrrr90> That's the thing, telegram can be very nice. And it's where a lot of people are.
19:09:53 <needbrrrrrrr90> We might think ourselves independent, but when it comes to outreach, you need to go to where the people are, you can't expect them to come to you
19:09:56 <needbrrrrrrr90> Which is a shame
19:10:34 <needbrrrrrrr90> Telegram got the gif reply ball rolling
19:10:53 <needbrrrrrrr90> And sticker packs lol
19:11:19 <asymptotically> gpg+smoke signals has a lot of catching up to do then
19:11:42 <jwinterm> telegram is where I receive almost all of my dubious offers to promote or otherwise provide services for wownero
19:12:51 <sgp_> Not Discord?
19:13:09 <jwinterm> I don't think we have a discord anymore, at least not that I'm in
19:13:28 <sgp_> ah
19:13:33 <sgp_> I remember thinking stickers were stupid when Telegram first added them lol. I was a hater
19:15:06 <needbrrrrrrr90> Stickers are honestly brilliant. I'm not sold on animated ones yet.
19:15:21 <sgp_> same, they are more annoying to me at the moment than anything
19:15:52 <sgp_> I just turned off the large emojis
19:20:18 <needbrrrrrrr90> Jwinterm wen wownero partnership
19:45:45 <niocbrrrrrr> I am lost in this world
19:48:37 <jwinterm> we are partnered with ourselves
19:48:45 <jwinterm> self-partnering
19:48:50 <jwinterm> is fewchur
19:54:50 <kinghat[m]> needmoney90: this is what i did:
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20:00:21 -xmr-pr- [meta] SamsungGalaxyPlayer opened issue #452: Coffee Chat: 4 April 2020 17:00 UTC
20:00:21 -xmr-pr- > https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/452
20:04:40 <sgp_> needbrrrrrrr90 rehrar hyc: is this Saturday a good time to also test out a "Monero Bar Chat?" I'm trying to stress the less-formal nature while also being inclusive of people who don't drink, but maybe "bar" is too far already
20:06:36 <needbrrrrrrr90> Better than the bar crawl Hyc suggested
20:13:55 <hyc> heh. well nobody's crawling to any bars anyway, they're all closed
20:18:24 <sgp_> haha virtual bar
20:20:00 <sarang> Monero Happy Hour?
20:20:16 <sarang> If a soda makes you happy, cool
20:32:10 <sgp_> monero happy hour is a better name
20:32:26 <sgp_> we all know the monero coffee chat is a boring hour :p
20:35:11 <sarang> Maybe people could share their favorite cocktail or mocktail recipes
20:48:59 <hyc> happy hour sounds good
20:49:27 <hyc> free tacos at the side bar
20:51:04 <john_doe2[m]> Guys, out of curiosity, besides monero, which do you think is the most private and secure crypto currency? And what can monero learn from it?
20:52:20 <hyc> there are no other private-by-default projects afaik
20:52:27 <hyc> so, nothing else out there worth discussing
20:53:08 <hyc> private-by-default, no trusted setup, no premine, blah blah blah
20:57:24 <sgp_> hyc and others: what's the latest UTC you would want to meet up this Saturday for happy hour?
21:44:48 <hyc> the coffee chat is still on at 17:00?
21:45:01 <sgp_> yes, that's the goal
22:09:51 <needbrrrrrrr90> Hyc: there are other private by default projects, but they're too small to consider atm. Though to be fair we were small at one point too.
22:10:24 <needbrrrrrrr90> One of them is zcash but default private, which is nice, but they don't have much traction afaik
22:17:06 <asymptotically> .zooko
22:17:06 <monerobux> And by the way, I think we can successfully make Zcash too traceable for criminals like WannaCry, but still completely private & fungible.
22:27:59 <john_doe2[m]> If you can make it too traceable for criminals how can it be completely private? Matter of fact (and regarding any technology)  you should want it to be robust enough for criminals,  as that most likely ensures it is robust enough for you.
22:34:42 <john_doe2[m]> Just think of tor, the fact that its good enough for many criminals is also why it can be trusted to protect journalists, human rights activists etc. Criminals will always find a way to hide their identity, as they are highly motivayed to do so, the average joe that has some concern about privacy will not. And thats who making somewhat traceable can end up hurting. Just think about the E2E debate.