00:02:02 <hpfr[m]> What do you guys think of tornado.cash? Surprised there hasn’t been a discussion on the sub
01:11:06 <needmonero90> Is it private by default?
01:11:15 <needmonero90> Thats where the conversation usually ends
01:17:59 <endogenic> this aesthetic https://handshake.org
02:53:34 <gingeropolous> uh how is that different than namecoin?
05:23:17 <rehrar> hpfr[m]: "100% anonymous"
05:23:24 <rehrar> These people are scrubs. Guaranteed.
05:24:15 <hpfr[m]> rehrar: I don’t disagree on the marketing front haha, but I was curious about what people thought of the tech
05:25:00 <rehrar> Seems similar to Zcoin. Burn a token and mint it out to a new address. But I just skimmed it.
05:25:15 <rehrar> If that's true, it'd have the standard set of problems with an accumulator based setup.
05:25:50 <hpfr[m]> I saw bitcoin’s tech lead tweet about it, so it’s at least somewhat legit
05:26:09 <rehrar> Bitcoin's....tech....lead?
05:26:13 <hpfr[m]> gingeropolous: its attempting to extend all of DNS and eventually decentralize and replace ICANN (for most TLD’s) rather than just use one TLD (.eth)
05:26:38 <rehrar> Bitcoin people seem to take the gamble that mixing is enough.
05:26:56 <hpfr[m]> rehrar: Gaven Andersen, Chief Scientist at the Bitcoin foundation
05:27:01 <hpfr[m]> That was vague haha
05:27:04 <rehrar> I wouldn't pay too much attention about what Bitcoin people think regarding privacy.
05:27:15 <hpfr[m]> Fair enough
05:27:35 <rehrar> ICANN is trash.
05:27:42 <manifest> theycant
05:27:45 <manifest> lel
05:28:01 <rehrar> manifest when will IRC support stickers so you guys can use Isabella?
05:28:02 <hpfr[m]> Exactly, that’s what handshake is designed to solve
05:28:19 <rehrar> So how was it different to Namecoin again?
05:28:22 <hpfr[m]> rehrar: irc... stickers...?
05:28:28 <manifest> my irssi font at least supports emojis soooo
05:28:32 <manifest> just need a monero emoji
05:28:46 <rehrar> Lol. irssi. It existed.
05:28:48 <manifest> well, the font depends on the terminal im using it with but lel
05:28:51 <hpfr[m]> rehrar: namecoin is just .bit, handshake has its own DNS resolver that falls back to ICANN for ICANN TLD’s
05:28:57 <rehrar> hpfr matrix supports stickers.
05:29:08 <rehrar> Coo'
05:29:17 <hpfr[m]> rehrar: facts, I use matrix. But IRC doesn’t
05:29:20 <rehrar> I'm trying to get Isabella on Riot also.
05:29:35 <rehrar> But they designed stickers very poorly, so it'll probably be a while.
05:29:52 <rehrar> Join the Monero lounge on Matrix if you haven't already.
05:30:51 <hpfr[m]> rehrar: is that the one that’s just called “Monero”
05:31:25 <hpfr[m]> Pretty sure all the official Monero rooms are bridged with IRC
05:31:37 <rehrar> #monero-lounge:matrix.org
05:34:46 <hpfr[m]> Oh that’s why I didn’t find it it has 18 bloody users
05:35:19 <hpfr[m]> I would, but the iOS Riot interface is so bad that I have to keep the rooms I’m in to a minimum
05:35:49 <hpfr[m]> And I don’t see the point of making a pure matrix room when there’s an IRC bridge frankly, it just fragments the community
05:36:25 <hpfr[m]> One day Matrix will be dominant and irc users will be in the minority, but it’s not here yet
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14:28:24 <mfoolb> asymptotically: what?
15:07:07 <sgp_> There is no meeting or coffee chat this Saturday
16:26:14 <mfoolb> .usd
16:26:15 <monerobux> Monero price in USD = $80.78
17:27:34 <needmonero90> Reddit often shadowbans users who then try to post in /r/Monero. Mods have the option of approving the posts of users reddit has shadowbanned. Moderators are now faced with a couple different paths to take.
17:28:44 <needmonero90> We can approve the posts, but unfortunately many of the shadow banned users are trying to circumvent bans or build karma to get past our filters (and reddit detected the pattern). We could inform the users they are shadowbanned, but if they are actually subversive, this just tells them to make a new account and try harder next time
17:29:33 <needmonero90> We've currently settled on a tentative policy to ignore comments from shadowbanned users unless they explicitly ask, in which case we inform them of the shadowban
17:29:56 <needmonero90> The reasoning being that people who ask about it aren't aware of how to check (and are probably a false positive)
17:30:07 <needmonero90> Just thinking out loud here, I'm curious what you guys think.
17:30:33 <asymptotically> what causes someone to get shadowbanned? an automated system or something manual from a mod?
17:30:46 <needmonero90> No clue, it's an internal reddit thing
17:30:51 <needmonero90> Their profiles don't show up
17:31:21 <needmonero90> User sekretservice is one of the latest
17:31:32 <needmonero90> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/e0c000/z/fi8pfjg
17:31:33 <monerobux> [REDDIT] The Israeli Banking Industry will set about to destroy Monero from within the United States by claiming it is used to finance terrorism abroad. Just like they did to Gold and Silver (self.Monero) | 0 points (49.0%) | 65 comments | Posted by 2big2failjbagbank | Created at 2019-11-23 - 02:57:38
17:31:48 <needmonero90> I approved that comment so you can see the account is a void
17:32:10 <needmonero90> He's commenting on literally months old posts
17:32:50 <hyc> sounds like safe to ignore them until they ask
17:33:13 <needmonero90> It's touchy when they ask for support, or make a semi relevant comment, etc.
17:33:36 <needmonero90> Having to make judgement calls sucks, and generally opens us up to the ire of the community
17:34:47 <needmonero90> This conversation is partly just to voice our new policy, and get a rough idea of what other people see to be the pitfalls
17:52:32 <sgp_> just approve stuff if requested that's good in your eyes
20:30:53 <sgp_> I just started a new Monero meetup in Chicago, IL https://www.meetup.com/Monero-Chicago/
20:32:50 <kinghat> how can we take it srsly if your meetup platform isnt decentralized?
20:36:13 <asymptotically> kinghat: but the meetup is centralised (that's the point)
20:37:07 <kinghat> autonomous individuals?
20:37:46 <kinghat> there better be decentralized ☕
20:38:28 <kinghat> my moral flexibility goes only so far
20:38:31 <asymptotically> but what value does it being decentralised add?
20:39:45 <asymptotically> i dont know what exactly meetup.com does, but if you need to buy tickets or something, and you made a mETH token for those tickets...
20:39:58 <asymptotically> you could turn up to the meetup and sgp could still tell you to go away. being decentralised solved nothing there
20:40:36 <sgp_> I hate meetup but there isn't another good option besides Facebook Groups haha
20:41:49 <kinghat> i will only go if sgp_ will sign my bewbs. and if there are 🍪🍪🍪
20:45:30 <sgp_> you need cookies?
20:46:09 <sgp_> kinghat: I'll share the meetups in r/MoneroCommunity so you don't need to make a meetup.com account
20:46:36 <nioc> I might come from NY but only if kinghat shows up
20:48:18 <sgp_> the first meeting will probably be sooner than later to just get it started and be pretty casual
20:48:24 <kinghat> ill sign niocs bewbs if sgp_  signs mine. and the whole 🍪 thing.
20:49:42 <kinghat> i feel like rehrar and needmonero90 should be involved in the signage as well.
20:50:07 <kinghat> an off chain bewb signing. would this be a second layer?
20:50:29 <needmonero90> D: ?
20:50:50 <sgp_> lol wtf dude
20:51:04 <kinghat> 😂
20:52:12 <kinghat> its friday, be gentle.
20:52:34 <kinghat> im just here for the lulz. and gingeropolous.
21:33:12 <manifest> lolcohol