00:06:58 <sgp_> rehrar: why not just chuck it on github hosting?
00:07:17 <sgp_> it's for a joke, doesn't need to be a "decentralized" joke
00:07:28 <selsta> github pages, netlify
00:07:33 <selsta> lot’s of free hosting for static websites
00:07:47 <selsta> lots*
00:17:25 <rehrar> sgp_: how else can I scam needmoney90 out of money?
00:17:52 <sgp_> rehrar: do you need to keep changing the page? lol
00:18:08 <needmoney90[m]> Ask me to buy you monster hunter so we can play? :D
00:19:02 <rehrar> needmoney90[m]: buy me monster hunter so we can play
00:23:39 <needmonero90> Ew wtf
00:26:19 <needmonero90> Why would I do that
01:04:12 <rottensox> >opens up a CCS proposal
01:04:12 <rottensox> >gets approved, almost fully funded
01:04:12 <rottensox> >starts looking for a developer
01:04:25 <rottensox> the joke is self-explanatory. :-)
01:04:25 <sgp_> need CCS for game
02:04:48 <xmrmatterbridge> <xmrhaelan> rottensox would be great to see that XMR go back to a Monero dev though...
02:11:41 <rottensox> ?
09:39:18 <ErCiccione[m]> What should be the address of the getmonero website as onion service (getmonero on tor)? vote here: https://www.strawpoll.me/19386207
09:50:12 <asymptotically> aren't vanity addresses bad? people just end up looking at the first characters and then end up getting phished
09:56:27 <fluffypony> asymptotically: that's why we should choose something where the first and last characters are memorable
09:56:55 <fluffypony> even if you have a random address people still memorise the first few characters once they've visited it a few times
09:57:12 <fluffypony> so you're a phishing target either way
09:58:45 <Inge-> need browsers to tell you "you have never visited this site" or "you have visited this site X times before, last on xx.yy.zzzz
09:58:58 <fluffypony> Inge-: I agree
09:59:07 <fluffypony> I wonder why they don't
09:59:23 <asymptotically> Inge-: i think firefox already does that, but it would probably be bad for tor where you might not want to save things like that
10:00:36 <asymptotically> https://i.imgur.com/Nt1NVnP.png
10:01:33 <Inge-> well, browsers are just now planning to warn you when downloading files over http ....
10:01:58 <fluffypony> I wonder if v3 onion addresses are long enough that you could store a hash
10:02:01 <Inge-> and lots of fortune 500 enterprises will bait-and-switch you from their https web site to a file download over http  *facepalm*
11:41:17 <dEBRUYNE> ErCiccione[m]: Would you mind posting the poll on Reddit too?
11:41:46 <dEBRUYNE> asymptotically: It is kind of hidden though for firefox :p
11:42:47 <ErCiccione[m]> Sure
11:46:53 <ErCiccione[m]> There it is https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/f38rdt/what_should_the_monero_website_onion_address_be/
11:46:53 <monerobux> [REDDIT] What should the Monero website .onion address be? Cast your vote! (https://www.strawpoll.me/19386207) to r/Monero | 1 points (100.0%) | 1 comments | Posted by ErCiccione | Created at 2020-02-13 - 11:43:52
12:00:21 <fluffypony> tks ErCiccione[m]
14:50:04 <sgp_> ArticMine: is this the easiest way to buy XMR in Canada now? https://medium.com/newton-crypto/newton-adds-support-for-monero-xmr-and-tether-usdt-cd6f55532496
15:04:18 <rdymac> rottensox: I love jokes. Ours have been running for two years now: https://twitter.com/btcven/status/1130911739736993800 , https://twitter.com/Locha_io/status/1196808473473961990 , and despite all that time we are still looking for developers as good ones with free time and salaries within our budget are very scarce :)
15:04:19 <monerobux> [ Bitcoin Venezuela ⚡️ on Twitter: "Checkout @Locha_io's open-source code and affordable devices for private mesh communications and Bitcoin transactions without internet. @sqcrypto @jack , you could he ] - twitter.com
15:04:22 <monerobux> [ Locha Mesh 🇻🇪 ₿ ⚡️🐦📻🦅🛰📡 #Bitcoin #LochaMesh on Twitter: "The #LochaMesh team is looking for one more electronic engineer PCB designer, to help us advance faster in our own board for the open-source #m ] - twitter.com
15:04:35 <rottensox> :)
15:06:08 <rottensox> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/f281lt/ccs_funding_required_locha_mesh_a_resilient/fhbst2m/
15:06:09 <monerobux> [REDDIT] [CCS Funding Required] Locha Mesh, a resilient long-range radio mesh network (Monero Aligned) (https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/randybrito-locha-mesh.html) to r/Monero | 81 points (91.0%) | 53 comments | Posted by xmrhaelan | Created at 2020-02-11 - 13:05:34
15:06:14 <rottensox> that comment...
15:07:57 <rdymac> What about that comment?
15:08:06 <rdymac> You read my reply? https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/f281lt/ccs_funding_required_locha_mesh_a_resilient/fhchzs7/
15:08:08 <monerobux> [REDDIT] [CCS Funding Required] Locha Mesh, a resilient long-range radio mesh network (Monero Aligned) (https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/randybrito-locha-mesh.html) to r/Monero | 80 points (91.0%) | 53 comments | Posted by xmrhaelan | Created at 2020-02-11 - 13:05:34
15:08:11 <rottensox> i don't want to.
15:08:16 <rottensox> good luck with locha.
15:08:21 <rottensox> this conversation is over.
15:08:40 <rdymac> oh, ok rottensox .
15:10:54 <sgp_> Let's not be rude here. We can disagree without crossing a line
15:17:58 <rdymac> are you rottenwheel ? If so, despite you'd shredded Twitter history, with what is still left there you seem to like code and open-source tools that the Locha Mesh developers have helped build
15:19:47 <rdymac> Sorry, sgp_ don't want to sound rude, just clarifying we are delivering things people like and use, and will use in the future even if they prefer to not contribute to it. it's their decision to do so or to use free-ride once everything is done, which all of us do with most of the tools we use everyday
16:04:41 <xmrmatterbridge> <xmrhaelan> rdymac I think sgp was referring to rottensox
16:09:35 <rdymac> Don't want to spam, but another comment about the concerns of me not being an active member online of the Monero forums has been answered: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/f281lt/ccs_funding_required_locha_mesh_a_resilient/fhhr20y/
16:09:36 <monerobux> [REDDIT] [CCS Funding Required] Locha Mesh, a resilient long-range radio mesh network (Monero Aligned) (https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/randybrito-locha-mesh.html) to r/Monero | 78 points (90.0%) | 56 comments | Posted by xmrhaelan | Created at 2020-02-11 - 13:05:34
21:35:10 <selsta> Are comments with swastikas staying up? https://reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/f27f2e/gregor_%C5%BEavcer_monero_is_the_purest_community/
21:35:12 <monerobux> [REDDIT] Gregor Žavcer: Monero is the purest community (https://imgur.com/a/6uOBpfI) to r/Monero | 29 points (77.0%) | 24 comments | Posted by Zalakun | Created at 2020-02-11 - 12:06:04
21:35:35 <asymptotically> comments with swastikas?
21:35:41 <selsta> Trolls still link to this post from other subreddits.
21:36:17 <selsta> asymptotically: Did you look at the comments from OP?
21:37:02 <asymptotically> ah my font is missing the swastika character
21:38:24 <rehrar> I mean, do the Ryo people have lives?
21:38:25 <rehrar> honestly
21:42:28 <selsta> needmonero90: what is the moderation policy here?
21:46:46 <needmonero90> Selsta: the thread is removed
21:46:57 <needmonero90> I felt removing comments added post thread removal was redundant
21:47:01 <selsta> they still link to it from other subs
21:47:03 <needmonero90> (which they were)
21:47:07 <needmonero90> Sigh
21:47:32 <needmonero90> The thread is literally removed from our subreddit, why are we expected to keep moderating things post removal
21:47:53 <needmonero90> Like. Should I be keeping tabs on shit from a month ago to make sure no one makes bad comments?
21:48:31 <selsta> No? I was just asking for the moderation policy is.
21:48:40 <needmonero90> If the comments had been made before the thread was removed I would agree, but expecting the mods to continue to moderate stuff that's been shut down to the best of our abilities already is a bit of a high bar
21:49:06 <needmonero90> For the moment I think thread removals generally imply that moderation has stopped
21:49:32 <needmonero90> And if anyone gets pissy about nazi comments in the sub, I'll tell them the same thing
21:49:42 <needmonero90> It's not in the sub anymore, the thread is gone
21:50:00 <selsta> It’s not apparent that the post is removed.
21:50:16 <needmonero90> Do you expect mods to continue monitoring every removed post just in case?
21:50:34 <needmonero90> I'm just curious how far you expect us to go
21:50:38 <selsta> No.
21:50:59 <needmonero90> So other than individual bandages, what kind of policy change are you asking for?
21:51:45 <needmonero90> And please note, advertisers do this a decent amount
21:51:56 <needmonero90> Necroposting old threads or deleted stuff that's linked
21:52:15 <needmonero90> It's extremely hard to even detect on our end until it gets reported, and then you realize it's a day old comment on a four month old post
21:52:19 <selsta> I would add a sticky comment in a case like this. Currently it is not apparent that the post is removed.
21:52:29 <needmonero90> I can add a sticky no problem
21:52:36 <needmonero90> Thanks for the suggestion
21:52:55 <needmonero90> And I'm not sure how to make the thread's removal more apparent
21:53:00 <needmonero90> That's a reddit thing
21:53:34 <dEBRUYNE> I will remove the comments in a bit, forgot to do that
21:53:50 <dEBRUYNE> Normally it should state [removed], not sure why the pic is still showing..
21:54:01 <selsta> It was removed by automod.
21:54:08 <selsta> I think that means it’s only hidden?
21:54:16 <selsta> Not sure.
21:55:23 <dEBRUYNE> Shouldn't be
21:55:28 <needmonero90> Debruyne: I guess my bigger concern is with the expectation for us to continue moderating comments in threads that have already been removed
21:55:45 <needmonero90> its not a big deal to just remove the comments here, but its more a matter of policy
21:55:55 <needmonero90> are we really responsible once the thread is gone?
21:56:05 <dEBRUYNE> The comments were made on the same day though
21:56:12 <needmonero90> same day, but after the thread was removed
21:56:25 <needmonero90> which is an important point, I think
21:57:00 <selsta> You have repeated this 3 times now, no one expects moderation after posts have been removed.
21:57:14 <needmonero90> It's not you, its me lol
21:57:24 <needmonero90> I'm questioning my own biases
21:57:36 <selsta> I think the problem was that it isn’t properly removed.
21:57:47 <selsta> Else linking from another sub wouldn’t be possible like it is now.
21:57:51 <needmonero90> its removed in the only way possible isn't it?
21:58:03 <dEBRUYNE> selsta: You can link to removed posts
21:58:12 <selsta> Right but the image would be gone.
21:59:50 <selsta> Maybe a bug?
22:00:20 <selsta> https://snew.notabug.io/r/Monero/comments/f27f2e/gregor_žavcer_monero_is_the_purest_community/ says removed by mod, but on Reddit it isn’t apparent.
22:01:34 <selsta> Only the new Reddit design shows it as removed.
22:03:25 <selsta> I guess only self posts show [removed]. In this case adding a sticky comment would be nice.
22:13:11 <asymptotically> can you train automoderator to do that? make a sticky comment in a deleted thread saying it's deleted and to turn away immediately :D?
22:19:05 <selsta> ty nm90
22:25:00 <ErCiccione[m]> I think the problem is resolved by simply adding a sticky comment when a thread is removed specifying the reason, as dEBRUYNE did. I think would be a good idea to always add a sticky note after a post is removed, if you don't do it already.
22:27:13 <ErCiccione[m]> Why isn't that socketpuppet banned btw? :P
22:27:46 <selsta> I guess it was a new account.
22:27:57 <selsta> They have hundreds :P
22:29:55 <ErCiccione[m]> yeah but i mean, i wouldn't have just removed the comments, it's clearly a troll spitting nazi shit with clearly malicious intent. Ban them already
22:30:41 <selsta> Why do you think that they aren’t banned?
22:32:20 <ErCiccione[m]> correcting my earlier comment -> s/as dEBRUYNE did/as needmonero90 did
22:32:53 <needmonero90> What makes you think he isn't banned?
22:33:22 <needmonero90> Unless it's your account, you can't know that
22:33:26 <ErCiccione[m]> selsta: yeah i mixed two thougths. I assumed reddit would have banned the socketpuppet account because i assumed the account was flagged somehow
22:33:39 <ErCiccione[m]> needmonero90: not even in a reddit-wide ban/
22:33:41 <ErCiccione[m]> ?
22:33:55 <needmonero90> How do I reddit ban him lol
22:33:59 <needmonero90> I don't have that kind of power
22:34:06 <needmonero90> I can only ban in our subreddits...
22:34:36 <ErCiccione[m]> no, i'm not talking about you banning him from reddit, i'm aware that you don't have that power
22:35:06 <ErCiccione[m]> i was assuming a reddit-wide ban would happen in these situations after the comments with swastikas have been reported
22:35:19 <needmonero90> That's not up to us...
22:35:25 * needmonero90 is confused what you want us to do 
22:35:57 <needmonero90> We've literally reported dozens of accounts, they don't stop
22:36:38 <ErCiccione[m]> I think you are missing my point. Take out monero-specific moderation out of the discussion :P
22:36:51 <ErCiccione[m]> i was just talking about reddit in general
22:37:42 <ErCiccione[m]> I was asking myself why the account is not banned from reddit, not the monero subreddit, but maybe i'm assuming they are faster than they actually are
22:39:34 <ErCiccione[m]> they -> reddit mods
22:40:12 <ErCiccione[m]> to clarify again: i understood you guys cannot do more than what you already did :P
23:55:36 <hyc> Go back to hosting our own forum, instead of using reddit?
23:56:50 <selsta> Forum is not really a Reddit replacement.
23:57:00 <hyc> how is it not?
23:57:46 <selsta> They are different and have different use cases.
23:58:17 <hyc> A place to post announcements and support discussion threads under each post. how are they different?
23:59:19 <needmonero90> because even if our forum gets used, the people who try to see where our reddit presence is will be left with something unmoderated/whatever?
23:59:36 <hyc> just lock it
23:59:37 <needmonero90> For better or worse, reddit is popular, and 'leaving' the existing place isn't really an option optics-wise
23:59:49 <needmonero90> itll spring up under other names