00:08:58 <gingeropolous> just mute joins/parts?
03:29:35 <needmonero90> gingeropolous: is it reasonable to expect every person to do that?
03:29:44 <needmonero90> That's kinda like saying we don't need to ban spammers, just mute them
03:31:00 <needmonero90> If a regular user was to continuously join and leave, at some point I think its reasonable to do something about it
03:31:22 <needmonero90> I'm curious how long it would take people to get mad if someone joined and left every minute or something
03:32:26 <needmonero90> Its literally dozens of join/part spams, multiple times a day, every day
03:49:29 <sarang> What's the root cause of the frequent matrix disconnects?
04:07:20 <needmonero90> Sarang: matrix has garbage servers that constantly die
04:07:37 <needmonero90> We could host our own relay, which would fix it in theory
04:08:05 <needmonero90> But matrix is just straight up overloaded and I don't think it will be fixed any time soon
04:08:16 <sarang> I see
04:08:19 <sarang> Quite unfortunate
04:08:19 <needmonero90> The official matrix relays that is
04:08:21 <needmonero90> Yeah.
04:09:19 <sarang> So the only practical options are either to ignore it or remove the relay from channels?
04:09:21 <needmonero90> (afaik they have no profit incentive to upgrade their infra)
04:09:35 <needmonero90> Ignore it, remove the relay, or self host the relay
04:09:45 <needmonero90> The third option does exist
04:10:12 <needmonero90> Would require some configuration from anyone who wants to connect over matrix's federation, but it's a fix
10:05:08 <kayront> heh, xmr.to is blocking tor exit nodes now too..
11:28:10 <azy> there ought to be a channel mode to mute joinparts
11:40:01 <asymptotically> azy: what client are you using? most have an option to hide them
11:40:21 <azy> i do hide them, <needmoonero90> gingeropolous: is it reasonable to expect every person to do that?
11:40:39 <azy> theyre useful in smaller channels though, kinda
11:40:40 <asymptotically> oh :p. that'll teach me to reply to the first message i see after rejoining
11:40:44 <azy> you stupid bastard
11:40:52 <azy> sorry, slipped out
11:40:56 <parasew[m]> again a short reminder for everyone who will be at 36c3: today is the last day where you can enter a talk/workshop for our program! https://frab.riat.at
11:40:56 <asymptotically> ;________;
14:19:44 <decent-username[> <kayront "heh, xmr.to is blocking tor exit"> now they show their true face.
14:30:17 <azy> lol
14:42:09 <asymptotically> decent-username[: they block Tor exit nodes because they want you to use their hidden service
14:42:14 <asymptotically> instead of being MITM'd by some random exit node
14:53:37 <decent-username[> oh
14:53:49 <decent-username[> :3 I knew that.
14:55:03 <asymptotically> bF is a saint of monero, he only has our best interests at heart <3
15:06:11 <azy> https would stop that no?
15:06:21 <selsta> they most likely block them due to regulatory issues
15:06:27 <azy> yeah id imagine so
15:06:35 <selsta> if you depend on a centralized service you are doing it wrong anyway
15:06:59 <azy> its a great service for monero
15:07:25 <selsta> depend on a centralized service for your privacy*
15:12:36 <azy> it seems like a fine solution as far as privacy is concerned
15:12:53 <azy> or did
15:15:56 <asymptotically> i don't think it's for regulatory issues, otherwise they wouldn't offer it as a hidden service
15:34:28 <selsta> asymptotically: they don’t anymore
15:34:35 <asymptotically> :o
15:34:46 <asymptotically> rip sorry, i didn't realise
15:34:48 <selsta> problem is that they aren’t allowed to operate in USA
15:34:58 <asymptotically> got to block all US ips?
15:35:04 <selsta> yep
15:35:15 <asymptotically> looks like they are blocking the UK too
15:35:18 <selsta> and with a hidden service it can be seen as offering a way to bypass it
15:35:19 <asymptotically> >XMR.to is currently not available in your region. Apologies.
15:35:40 <nioc> asymptotically: welcome to my world
15:41:22 <asymptotically> that's sad :( when did this happen? i'm sure i used the onion not so long ago
15:42:33 <selsta> a few months ago or so
15:53:00 <asymptotically> i can still play minko.to though :D
16:28:05 <azy> right so
16:28:24 <Jae> Hey fellow Monero users
16:28:26 <azy> someone host an onion proxy?
16:29:16 <azy> how could you make that trustable?
17:28:13 <gingeropolous> uhhh vpn?
17:48:04 <azy> uhh you think im made of money?
17:49:03 <Snipa> Just setup a hard exit node in a non-regulated country, and proxy your traffic there.
17:50:01 <Snipa> VPS' are quite cheap for that purpose, I used to have several for work, as I had to test some EU gambling sites, and they hard-ban US IP's, even the corportate ones that are supposed to test their deployments. :P
17:54:03 <azy> what are the best nonregulated countries?
17:55:50 <Snipa> No idea which ones they're regulating/deregulating.  If I had to choose, I'd probally go with some of the various EU locations.  It sounds like the UK is out, possibly germany?  Tor Browser will tell you where you're exiting if you want to poke around some.
17:56:09 <Snipa> I know I've been blocked for awhile, but that's sort of the US state of crypto.