15:22:15 <sgp_> Here's an example of someone who finds Monero "interesting" but not "that interesting." How can we get people who are interested to make the leap and fell confident talking about it and participating in the community? https://twitter.com/PeterMcCormack/status/1204536656457617409
15:22:15 <monerobux> [ Peter McCormack on Twitter: "I don’t find it that interesting. The show is a Bitcoin show, I’m not going back to covering alts unless they are scams I need to warn people about.… https://t.co/z0QF24gC ] - twitter.com
15:22:18 <sgp_> *feel
15:23:29 <sgp_> not covering alts on a Bitcoin show is one thing, but not wanting to show up on Monero Talk is another
15:26:10 <sarang> I'm sure what makes something interesting to that person may not be what makes it interesting to someone else
15:26:22 <sarang> Applications, technical stuff, etc.
15:27:23 <xmrmatterbridge> <rehrar> test
15:27:23 <monerobux> test failed
15:27:30 <xmrmatterbridge> <rehrar> thanks monerobux
15:28:08 <sgp_> sarang: perhaps, but even if they don't advocate for it all the time, how do we encourage them to meet people in the community, ask questions, and otherwise get involved?
15:35:13 <sgp_> there's a lot of surrounding talk about how Monero is cool, but little genuine involvement
15:47:07 <xmrmatterbridge> <learninandlurkin> I think they find the privacy stuff less interesting from a "if you've got nothing to hide" perspective, but a return of egalitarian and decentralised mining via RandomX might get some maxi attention.
15:47:59 <xmrmatterbridge> <learninandlurkin> But there isn't much news on how much of a gamechanger RX is filtering through to bitcoiners at this stage
15:48:51 <xmrmatterbridge> <learninandlurkin> We may have to wait for the point where people start telling them "I'm mining on my pc for profit again!" to get some word of mouth marketing
15:50:24 <Inge-> a top end consumer CPU makes what, a buck a day?
15:58:21 <sgp_> learninandlurkin: is egalitarian CPU mining something they care about? Most people who speak about RandomX are pretty critical of it
15:58:41 <sgp_> or at least are critical of Monero's PoW decisions so far
15:59:18 <xmrmatterbridge> <learninandlurkin> I thought bitcoiners cared about decentralisation and censorship resistance. Or maybe it was just lambos....
16:01:17 <sgp_> learninandlurkin they generally advocate for it strongly, but they would probably disagree with Monero's chosen route
16:03:41 <xmrmatterbridge> <learninandlurkin> Tbh I think the vast majority of bitcoiners aren't even aware of RandomX. Or dynamic blocksize. Or that a XMR transation is only (5?) times bigger than a BTC transaction these days. Or of how low fees are. Or i2p & tor support.
16:05:10 <xmrmatterbridge> <learninandlurkin> I think Monero Talk is a fantastic project for gettinf this stuff out there with really high quality interviews, but the guy needs some heavy marketing and maybe a tiny bit more technical knowledge
16:24:02 <gingeropolous> agreed. sometimes im listening to em and im like man i wish i was there to say something
16:47:33 <sgp_> Getting people to go on Monero Talk is typically a good time since they otherwise wouldn't ever research/learn anything
17:30:45 <nioc> <learninandlurkin> I thought bitcoiners cared about decentralisation and censorship resistance. Or maybe it was just lambos....
17:30:52 <nioc> ^^^ yes lambos
17:31:10 <nioc> I have no hope for McCormick
17:48:17 <sgp_> Defcon 27 videos are now available on the Defcon media server https://media.defcon.org/DEF%20CON%2027/DEF%20CON%2027%20villages/
17:48:23 <sgp_> I'm checking to see if any are missing
17:49:49 <sgp_> only 15 are there, so likely? need to confirm with the original schedule
18:05:59 <sgp_> there is *maybe* only 1 missing (1 of Allan Stevo's 2)
18:06:09 <sgp_> everything else is there
18:19:23 <xmrmatterbridge> <learninandlurkin> Awesome!
18:47:27 <monerobby> https://twitter.com/jack/status/1204766078468911106
18:47:28 <monerobux> [ jack 🌍🌏🌎 on Twitter: "Twitter is funding a small independent team of up to five open source architects, engineers, and designers to develop an open and decentralized standard for social media. The goa ] - twitter.com
18:47:31 <monerobby> oO
18:48:50 <sgp_> wow, very cool
18:52:27 <kinghat> isnt that already a thing?
18:52:39 <kinghat> mastodon?
18:54:24 <hyc> mebbe they perceive that mastodon is growing? frankly I haven't seen that happen
18:54:27 <sarang> I heard twitter used to have a very open API, and then kept tightening down on it
18:54:35 <sarang> Sooooo what to make of this sudden turnabout...
18:54:38 <hyc> yes, they did
18:55:05 <needmonero90> I think people are starting to become aware that there is stifled/chilled speech, and the direction is scary
18:55:06 <sarang> I have little hope when profit-seeking companies push open standards to get support, and then close them off to make money
18:55:14 <hyc> the tweet thread tells me that they're tired of the pressure to censor fake political ads
18:55:23 <hyc> by decentralizing they can completely abdicate responsibility
18:55:42 <needmonero90> stifled/chilled speech, and the enforcement has been offloaded to the platforms
19:15:09 <xmrmatterbridge> <learninandlurkin> Surely if they become a client of an open protocol trying to give people a "healthy experience" that gives them more moderation responsibility?
19:17:00 <geonic> jtgrassie: "MoneroTalk" maybe has 0.734% of the listeners of "What Bitcoin Did". :)
19:17:36 <kinghat> https://twitter.com/MastodonProject/status/1204773768402481155
19:17:37 <monerobux> [ Mastodon on Twitter: "Jack...… " ] - twitter.com
19:21:35 <asymptotically> they changed the requirements to be able to use the api and now it's harder for you to own your posts and syndicate them to twitter
20:25:39 <sgp_> it's frustrating that the quality of the defcon recordings are so bad
20:25:55 <sgp_> 25 fps, ~400 kbps
20:26:39 <sgp_> mono audio at 49 kbps lol
20:27:15 <sgp_> for reference, the konferenco livestream was 9000 kbps, 1080p, 60 fps
20:28:59 <geonic> 24fps is good enough for cinemas.. the resolution/kbps is the killer here
20:30:30 <sgp_> indeed, a 400 kbps video won't look good even with the best compression
20:32:48 <geonic> I'll forgive the video if the audio is good.. 49 kbps mono would be good for streaming on dial-up