00:13:45 <needmonero90> https://electriccoin.co/blog/ecc-response-to-zcash-community-polling-results/
00:50:33 <sgp_> needmonero90: in effect that's what happened, yes
00:50:50 <needmonero90> I called it at konferenco
00:50:54 <needmonero90> no way they would stop this gravy train
00:51:07 <needmonero90> its not like theres a splitoff group that could challenge their dominance, they hold all the cards
00:55:22 <sgp_> it's worth noting there is a third entity that is now asking for 5% of the dev reward. But don't make any quick assertions yet
00:56:06 <sgp_> The third entity shares beneficial ownership with the ECC, and likely is a recipient of the current Founder's Reward. So in a large way, the money is still ending in the same hands no matter what
00:56:50 <sgp_> In any case, I think the way this played out will have severe consequences for Zcash in the long-term
00:57:11 <sgp_> And it further isolates Monero as one of the only projects with a Bitcoin-like "structure"
13:07:01 <xmrmatterbridge> <learninandlurkin> Relays down?
14:01:51 <needmonero90> Looks fine to me learninandlurkin, your message came through
15:08:18 <xmrmatterbridge> <learninandlurkin> Nice, I think they were down over the last 24 hours though
15:08:48 <xmrmatterbridge> <learninandlurkin> Nothing came through monday at all, unless people just had a case of the Mondays
15:18:15 <nioc> not a lot but there was posting yesterday
16:36:52 <sgp_> kinghat: he did not respond
16:46:28 <kinghat> typical. thanks sgp_
20:08:12 <sgp_> Note: I take back what I shared earlier about beneficial ownership. I mixed up Pantera and Polychain
20:08:32 <sgp_> It's unclear if there is any overlapping ownership
20:09:11 <sgp_> Something I should ask later, and I'm only bringing this up to correct my previous statements
20:19:58 <sgp_> ErCiccione (if you are here): I added a comment to your comment :)
20:55:32 <xmrscott[m]> midipoet: ErCiccione Maybe have it in the subbar?
20:55:54 <xmrscott[m]> (To file an issue rather than create a post)
20:56:51 <Guest78835> xmrscott: we are discussing it in #monero-site. I think the general opinion is to create another submenu for alert and urgent stuff. i will open an issue to discuss it tomorrow
20:57:12 <Guest78835> (but if somebody want to open it already, please do)
21:18:25 <sgp_> Here is the other talk given about privacy back in August at BTC2019: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5YHdwWTvDI
21:18:26 <monerobux> [ BTC2019: Bitcoin Privacy On- and Off-Chain | Janine Römer - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
21:20:51 <sgp_> the slides are really good, but it was quite pro-Wasabi and was entirely Bitcoin-focused
21:23:41 <sgp_> which is fine in many ways, but I feel that the presented solutions won't be used properly by anyone in the full audience
21:26:27 <Guest78835> xmrscott: i thought you were talking about the website. Could be a good idea.
21:30:38 <xmrscott[m]> My understanding by 'posts' was that you were seeing a bunch of subreddit posts about Monero issues rather than them filing issues
21:32:26 <xmrscott[m]> Granted, people may not read the sidebar on the sub, better might improve volume
21:36:23 <xmrscott[m]> *but might decrease inappropriate post volume all the same for those wvo do read :)