01:04:29 <M5M400> has the website hack thing been concluded yet and is there a writeup? dEBRUYNE?
01:05:05 <sgp_> M5M400: no
01:05:59 * M5M400 bites his tongue
01:07:01 <rottensox> <_<
01:10:22 <M5M400> http://www.quickmeme.com/img/ca/ca1b7c6db7cfa242127917a9ace57901d243d9fae6c27f77debafcbee595f3b6.jpg
01:13:18 <sgp_> M5M400: I love Top Gear / Grand Tour
01:17:05 <M5M400> sgp_: i regularly watch old episodes. I miss the three idiots.
01:17:46 <M5M400> didn't take you for a car guy though sgp_
01:17:55 <sgp_> what are your favorite episodes?
01:18:51 <sgp_> I'm not a huge car person, but I still like being updated on them
01:21:49 <M5M400> there's a few contenders... the first toyboata one; the one where they tried to kill the hilux; the transit van on the nordschleife; polar special; botswana special
01:22:27 <sgp_> one of the first episodes I watched was the bolivia special so that one has a special place in my heart
01:24:48 <M5M400> yeah, that one was great too
01:27:35 <sgp_> I'm excited for the next season of grand tour coming out later this month
06:34:43 <kayront> there is orbot AND Tor Browser for android now. they went full retard and blended Tor Browser + Orbot (on a different port) for the new Tor Browser. this breaks hundreds of applications that relied on integrating orbot
06:35:31 <kayront> orfox (previous "tor browser") is not really maintained anymore, orbot is still receiving updates, but considering the above it's not unusual to have two tor daemons running on android .. one for tor browser, one to torify apps that integrate with orbot
06:35:35 <kayront> which is a bit silly..
06:38:04 <kayront> xmrmatterbridge xmrhaelan, will you guys look into it ? where do you guys chat about such things usually, actually? could be interesting to make some noise together
06:38:21 <kayront> and - if anyone is in germany, I need a little favor. could you PM me?
07:35:50 <xmrmatterbridge> <learninandlurkin> xmrmatterbridge is not my nick, it's just an indication that I am being related through Mattermost
07:36:00 <xmrmatterbridge> <learninandlurkin> relayed*
07:37:27 <xmrmatterbridge> <learninandlurkin> Are you saying the tor browser for android can TORify apps?
07:42:20 <kayront> yes, it runs a listener on (iirc) 9150 instead of tcp/9050
07:42:55 <kayront> if the to-torify app supports setting the port manually,t hen it should work.. i've never actually tested, but that does work for tor browser on the desktop, so I imagine that it would work for android too
07:48:04 <xmrmatterbridge> <learninandlurkin> That's the coolest thing I've heard this week. I'll play around later.
07:48:46 <xmrmatterbridge> <learninandlurkin> Anyone here ordered a Pinephone by the way?
07:49:36 <xmrmatterbridge> <learninandlurkin> I don't appreciate that they don't accept crypto, but for $150 I may order it anyway
08:06:14 <kayront> http://27blltx6kt26k65umbs2tme6rhv4i7rhagnzzljp3bsoqfkj6w364sqd.onion/an-invitation-to-the-dark-side.html
08:07:30 <rottensox> kayront: briarproject.org
08:09:19 <rottensox> kayront: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRJ8vIh3dVU
08:09:19 <monerobux> [ 34C3 - Briar - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
08:09:37 <rottensox> https://invidio.us/watch?v=iRJ8vIh3dVU
08:09:42 <rottensox> k, i'll stop. :-)
08:09:54 <rottensox> let me take a peek at your recent link.
08:19:05 <rottensox> Dr. Montero Realero. lol.
08:19:16 <kayront> :D
08:23:52 <kayront> heh, bad timing come to think of it, just posted the article on reddit but I need to run some upgrades on the server
08:24:05 <kayront> guess these can wait until tomorrow
08:24:16 <rottensox> check briar out.
08:24:23 <rottensox> especially the talk at 34C3.
08:24:50 <rottensox> wish the rss feed was clearnet somehow. want to receive notifications when new posts are up.
08:25:18 <kayront> will do
08:25:26 <kayront> i've heard of it some years ago but completely forgot it existed
08:25:58 <kayront> hmm, yeah. it should be possible to add a rss feed extension to tor browser though ?
08:26:01 <kayront> never actually tried
08:27:20 <rottensox> i do not run tor on my vanilla pcs.
08:27:31 <rottensox> boot tails and do whatever i need, shut down, bye.
08:27:43 <kayront> that's next level
08:27:43 <kayront> :p
08:27:45 <rottensox> no persistence, no nothing. live bootable. do forget.
08:27:51 <rottensox> :-)
08:28:03 <rottensox> guess you're not the only one going full tinfoil mode, aye lad.
08:28:29 <kayront> hehe
08:28:44 <kayront> point taken :)
08:30:20 <rottensox> third paragraph i believe you type lest instead of let twice...
08:30:23 <rottensox> read: typos.
08:30:34 <rottensox> the prior article had minor details like this. just fyi.
08:30:42 <rottensox> otherwise the message and content are good.
08:31:13 <rottensox> hope you get around checking out briar's video. i've been using it ever since i stumbled it upon and has been a great experience for me and my peeps.
08:32:01 <kayront> oh yeah, that tends to happen
08:32:12 <kayront> i write the thing and publish immediately after scanning for errors
08:32:15 <kayront> but a few always get through
08:33:39 <kayront> usually I'm very premeditated and organized, but with writing I find that it just works better (minus the little typos) to not plan, just have something in mind to write about, and it more or less writes itself
08:34:05 <rottensox> true.
08:34:25 <rottensox> proofreading is tiresome and boring, but lets you show off a pristine face...
08:35:01 <kayront> do you find the idea intriguing btw? having several/many/THOUSANDS! community members each running their own onion blogs for fun and perhaps no profit
08:35:08 <kayront> spartacus becomes dr montero realero
08:36:01 <rottensox> kayront: seems very trivial and not bound to happen to be frank with you.
08:36:32 <rottensox> i believe it'd be easier and more possible if you just encourage people to write their own articles and post them on your website, or have them do it themselves, if Pelican allows it.
08:36:47 <kayront> i've thought about guest posting before
08:36:56 <kayront> and also some interviews
08:37:16 * kayront looks in the general direction of moneromooo
08:37:17 <rottensox> if cryptocurrencies are niche (small groups) even though we all think we're millions because that's what echo chambers do, people who go through the hurdles of running tor are very minimal...
08:37:50 <rottensox> dear lord, there's a head of this workgroup who said once people who want to pgp email with you are the worst and xmpp is terrible because UI/UX yadda yadda yadda...
08:38:02 <kayront> haha
08:38:10 <rottensox> point being, easier and broader reach if on reddit than on .onion.
08:38:31 <kayront> well for sure, as it says in the article, by going onion only you're definitely eliminating 90% of potential readers from the get go
08:38:49 <rottensox> ...yet you're posting them on reddit as well?
08:39:02 <kayront> yeah, but it links to the onion
08:39:07 <kayront> i don't have a domain
08:39:10 <kayront> (by choice)
08:39:49 <kayront> you'd be surprised how many people actually come from reddit, it's more than I expected (got analytics on the weblogs)
08:39:58 <kayront> and also from all sorts of tor-only search engines. who knew
08:40:47 <rottensox> how can you link someone from the clearnet to your onion site?
08:41:00 <kayront> well, you make the link, and warn them that it's an onion link
08:41:02 <rottensox> i guess they're running tor browser on their w10.
08:41:04 <rottensox> smh.
08:41:11 <kayront> if they're not torified and they click, name resolution fails, and that's that
08:41:20 <rottensox> lol
08:41:29 <kayront> but I always warn it's an onion link to prevent that DNS leak
08:42:22 <kayront> I couldn't tell you which OS, since tor browser always appears to be FF on Windows, but at least outside monero circles (maybe even here) windows+tor browser is the norm
08:42:40 <rottensox> losers.
08:43:01 <kayront> well, let's just say it's not ideal :p
08:43:33 <kayront> but even if they run windows, at least they're taking the step of disconnecting their identity from their searches and visits .. it's one small step forward
08:43:40 <kayront> imo, anyway
08:43:53 <rottensox> ya, agreed.
13:15:12 -xmr-pr- [meta] SarangNoether opened issue #417: Research meeting: 9 December 2019 @ 17:00 UTC
13:15:12 -xmr-pr- > https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/417
13:32:14 <xmrmatterbridge> <xmrhaelan> @kayront we currently have too many irons in the fire and not enough volunteers. The regulation workgroup I believe has an IRC channel but to my knowledge has not been bridged to Mattermost yet. Most of Monero Outreach chat currently happens on Telegram and Wire.
20:09:48 <sgp_> People watched about 250 hours of the most recent coffee chat so far. That's more than any other coffee chat, including the one from November 2017 with ~200 hours
20:10:40 <sgp_> The upgrade special coffee chat at the beginning of the year (March) has 182 hours of watch time
20:11:11 <rottensox> :-D